"warm" solid state integrated amplifier


I am interested in purchasing a new solid state integrated amplifier in the $6000 to $8000 price range. As I am getting older I am finding many amplifiers to be uncomfortable to my ears, "bright" is the term I see frequently used.  I am looking for an amplifier that is "warm".  Thank you and  I appreciate any advice I receive from Audiogon members.

 

tubeless


If you can find one used the Primare i30 is a great match with Proac's and should help you achieve the sound you are looking for. I would steer clear of the newer Primare amps as they have gone to class D.

At a much higher cost the Leben CS-600 integrated amp is the best amp I've heard with the D2's.

You might want to touch base with JohnnyR at the Audio Connection. He is a Proac dealer and likes the D2's very much. Good Luck!

 

As a (reformed, with great difficulty) tube guy, I often find solid state components "bright" or more to the point not quite musical in the sense of not allowing to relax naturally into the music. One of the SS integrated I have heard (and own) that I prefer is the all in one Gold Note IS-1000. Even the standard version sounds like music to my ears. And the versatility/ convenience is hard to beat (integrated, DAC with USB/streamer.Bluetooth, phono stage, pre-out, choice of damping factor, remote control of course ...). Despite its middle of the road power rating, it will drive most speakers with gusto. An outstanding component and a fantastic value.

Good luck with your quest! 

Check out the Lejonklou website, and see if this line might meet your requirements.  I would say that it is neutral, rather than warm, but for the type of music you listen to......neutral may work best IMO.  But, ymmv.  Good luck.

@hifineubee

 

+1. Definitely good observation on synergy.

I have had mostly solid state gear (tube preamp for the last fifteen years)... and it has not been harsh or bright (Pass xseries, Threshold preamp for a decade or so). It is a mater of synergy and component quality... and finally interconnects.

My reason for moving to tubes over the decades was not warmth... it was fully fleshed out sound, midrange bloom, natural textures. Often, it is easy to use the term warmth as shorthand for the characteristics I mention above. The problem can be this can be too high a level of abstraction to make changes efficiently actional.

Fatigue typically comes from a high noise floor and lots of high frequency distortion. It can be solved by implementing speakers or amps that don’t communicate the problem. But this is a band-aide and will get in the way later when you upgrade something upstream.This is where you really need to understand the source of the problem. In general you want an amp that passes on exactly what it gets and you want speakers that do the same... but then you need a really good source and preamp.

As an example, for a very long time I had harsh digital components and had to use really warm cables and interconnects (Cardas Gold Something) to cover it up. I upgraded to high quality CD player and Preamp and suddenly the Cardas sounded like a filter cutting off the treble. Neutral sounding interconnects and cables, that had sounded harsh and trebly, suddenly sounded perfect (Transperant and Straight Wire). With a great source and components you want full transmission of the signal. The trick is figuring out what sounds like what and how the whole thing is working together.

 

I bring this up as a general way of looking at thinking about warmth, and fatigue in sytems.