@tsushima1 you will never get your safe space and there will always be challenges to voodoo sciences.
Ehhhhh … WTF are you going on about !
Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?
I think we can all agree that threads about tweaks like fuses, stones, mats, power conditioners etc. stir up all kinds of controversy, conflict and ill will.
Short of banning discussion of these controversial topics, is there another solution to this problem?
I got this idea from teo_audio’s comments about a solution implemented at Canuck audio on another thread:
“Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.
Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.”
You may not like parts of his description, but I think the idea has real merit.
I propose a new “safe haven” sub-forum, with some special rules, for the discussion of tweaks. These rules would ONLY apply to this specific sub-forum, the current rules would continue as they are in all other areas.
The special rules would be along these lines:
Posts that categorically deny the possibility of tweaks having any effect or value are not allowed.
Posts proclaiming tweaks to be “scams” “cons” etc. are not allowed.
Posts that directly state, or imply, that another poster is lying, are not allowed.
Posts that make absolute negative statements like “Science proves it can’t work.” are not allowed.
Posts demanding measurements, controlled listening tests etc. are not allowed.
Posts that express skepticism (without making absolute negative statements), ask tough questions, or request more information are welcome.
Of course, some who hold the above opinions may object, but they would still be able to express those opinions in all other parts of the forum, just like they always have.
What do you think?
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"I discovered why i was a bad musician , i lived all my life more used to perceive rythm and harmony than melody, with not much melodical memory but an increase power to perceive forms and dynamical shapes linked to block of chords more than to melodical line... My attention to music is related to spatialization by timing of some chords which appear isolated in my attention window like a geometrical form moving, a surface speaking to me like a human face...This explain why while many listened to beatles in 1964 i was myself immersed in ancient choral music to perceive these moving forms and speaking faces..."
The money is in the melodies! At least in the so-called Popular music.
I’ve always regarded myself as a terrible musician, but this I put down to poor musical memory. Oh how that middle C would drift in my memory...!
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@mahgister I don't get why you would constantly keep wanting to get interrupted by rude, disrespectful, belittling, sarcastic, caustic, know it all blowhards. If you are addicted to debating people that couldn't care less about what you have to say, I can somewhat understand that, but even then...all the energy wasted on people that don't really have anything important to the conversation seems like a tremendous waste of time. I would happily reorganize this forum and society as a whole into groups of people that segregate themselves and live peacefully, independently, and away from each other. |
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Segregation by affinity choices may be working in Heaven where all is perfect... 😊 😁 or on some other audio forums... But we live on earth, and we are in Audiogon, a test field where we must learn to live TOGETHER when we can... Learning here is the road ... Stars could segregate themselves in an "apparent" perfection...But it is an illusion, even stars encounters other than themselves and learn... Then i try like star to shine on everyone and not segregate between my fellow stars human beings...For sure i prefer some over others, but politeness and communication is the key.... I dont believe nor wait for others to change i have the job to change myself first....
We are like trees which never chose the ground where they are growing and our body is not for us our choice at birth, we are born with it, nor our actual mind is only our choice, we are born with a mind-set of our own, specific, we must learn to make all that our own freeing choices in life...What exist is not FREEDOM but the freeing gesture...The road exist only the way you walk all along it with the shoes you have at the beginning....
But there is hope for humanity in reformation yes... It is coming now... Materialism is DEAD... IDOLS are dead like was saying Nietzsche ... But the actual new vocabulary concepts of a new humanity emerge right now in science and in psychology, in religions ... This new concepts are complex and completely new... In a word for me we go from an external relation to Nature to an intrernal one... Humanity dont use duality now so much but POLARITY...IT BEGINS... It is no more the motto "distinguising to unite" but the motto "distinguishing without separating"... Reform dont need segregation...A new vision dont change phenomenon location so much than the eye of the seer.... And the language of polarities mirror the dynamic working inside and outside the body in ONE FREEING COSMIC GESTURE....
What i called polarities in the Goethe tradition, Friston called them "Markov blanket"...It is a mathematical concept at the heart of his vision.... Karl Friston is one of the geniuses who will change science and who has already done so.......I give it as an example, i know many others... But this one is striking and very powerful genius able to change all biology fields and A.I. He had already...It is not news yet for all to know thats all.... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW0JnjgCO3o&t=15s
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