The Big Misconception About Electricity

I think this is a very good rule...

I think the same...

But if someone is wrong about a point of argument i appreciate that he recognize it when it is the case...If not, no discussion is possible...

Tolerance without gregarious scapegoating is the key to civilization...

And for sure less dogmatic or less abrasive comment could help too...

Politeness is the key to discovery said Confucius, but Lao Tse add that humility help a lot....

( i invented these citations myself then i apologize for my excesses and abuse in bad litterature)

Knowing my name and seeing my face will in no way change what I wrote, but it may encourage you and others to dox me. I wasn’t born yesterday. This is just another attempt to discredit me and to avoid addressing what I have written. I could not care who you are or what your face looks like. I am judging you purely on the basis of what you are posting. I will ask you once again to stick to the topic if you are able.

It my experience @mahgister, politeness is the key to very slow discovery and often ends in quiet anger and resentment. Out in the open "argument" and "conflict" if kept to the topic at hand, and not made overtly personal reaches a better, more nuanced, faster, and more acceptable to all conclusion. The home of Confucius is known for their "outward" politeness, but that is often hiding the middle finger, which leads to worse long term outcomes. Meanwhile, day to day interactions in Confucius' home, are anything but polite when the curtain is pulled back. One could argue the forced "politeness" of woke culture is retarding real progress, as we are no longer even allowed to disagree on certain topics. Confucius thought was initially frowned upon by the Communist party as it was seen as a threat to their "moral" power. Now it is used as tool for control. Be careful what you wish for.

I do my best to stick to only arguing the topic and hand, I am open to "new" concepts if actually thought threw, but when we start talking about celestial bodies formerly being practically in the Earth's atmosphere in the last thousands of years, you are not going to get a "respectful" reply. If I stray from the topic at hand too far, I will try not to take too much offence if you pull me back in.

I believe our thoughts on Tesla will never agree. You see a saint, I see a smart inventor who was convinced of his own superiority and did not give credit where credit was due and claimed to be "first" for everything he touched. Neither Tesla nor Marconi really invented radio. Edison, gave a lecture on what was to be radio waves in 1871 and patented a ship to shore comms in 1890(1?). Jagadesh Bose range a remote bell in 1894 using radio waves. Heinrich Hertz demonstrated spark gap communication in 1887. Marconi's main advancements perhaps were antenna ideas which he honed in early 1895 and is credit, I would say accurately of that year putting together the first complete wireless transmission system.  Tesla was obviously great at applying technology and realized his Tesla coil made a best at the time transmitter. He claims that Marconi was using 17 of his patents, but please indicate where he gave credit to all those who did work prior which enabled what he did.

I will accept your point about Tesla being not alone in his field for sure...But he was ALWAYS isolated and worked alone... By many aspect he resemble more to a "saint on a mission " than to a scientist, yes...That make his life stuff for legend...And legendary he was...

Anyway he never was a "tinkerer", never was driven by money, and like others was a true scientist...That was my point....His ego was directed toward a mission not toward himself, that separate himself completely from the like of Edison....His scientific output in America and in the world make this mission a reality not only the dream of a narcissist tinkerer...The many spritual aspects of his personality unknown to most, make him more fascinating and out of the norm... His eidetic memory are just one....

He was not alone in his field of research but he was certainly one of the greatest, the like of Steinmetz and unlike tinkerer uneducated Edison: Pure scientist and not business man first and not business man at all....

For politeness you are right...My character mimic yours i like discussions without hypocrisy....

But being in face of one another is not the same than being in a forum....We dont have any clues here emotional or physical, then misconceptions are easy, then politeness and a bit of humility help at first contact ...No ?

And like you i dont want for myself the life in a Confucean extended family for the same reason...

I find Electric Universe’s claims far more believable than Magical black holes, dark matter, etc etc etc....

I have watched over a 1000 hours of accompanying videos and evidence, claims made by credible scientists, working at mainstream institutions. Their theories have successfully predicted all sorts of phenomena in space (decades/centuries in advance), observations that have left main stream scientists completely befuddled.

All the information is available online, cited, catalogued, straight from the horse’s mouth. It is there for people that are interested enough to go and investigate for themselves.

Every revolutionary idea in human history has been labelled "Nutcase" by all the mediocre minds, mediocre minds that themselves have always maintained that their generation had reached the end of Human discovery, nothing new is possible.

"It was very easy to be a scientist in the past" they constantly scream...

All the while denigrating and harassing people that are doing all the trailblazing.

The evidence suggests that only a few thousand years ago planets moved close to the earth, producing electrical phenomena of intense beauty and terror.

 

We contend that humans once saw planets suspended as huge spheres in the heavens. Immersed in the charged particles of a dense plasma, celestial bodies "spoke" electrically and plasma discharge produced heaven-spanning formations above the terrestrial witnesses.

@yuviarora , I will keep posting this as this was in the direct link you provided. I have been aware of the electric universe concept for many years, and with very very odd exception, I cannot find any reputable scientists that promote this idea, and their "explanations" are not more observable or accurate than any others and most of their so called models do not even work on a solar system level, let alone explain so many phenomena which we observe more and more. Keep in mind that things like the LHC prove more and more that many of the things before thought purely theoretical, are actually true. Ditto for the gravity wave detector, which detected something your electric universe model would not allow, and I don't think neutrinos would fit in either.

I find it interesting that you accuse me of being indoctrinated, who has many thousands of hours of education in physics, as well and many more thousands in applied physics, which gives me a solid foundation to build on w.r.t. other aspects of physics, but you, who have watched Youtube videos, but appears to lack a strong theoretical background is not "indoctrinated". Care to share why you believe that is so?