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.? Digital Reclocking and syncing clocks does anyone know the correct Answrrsb
Hello To all ,many Audiophiles I have found do not even know what a Digital reclocker is, and what does it do exactly , and how it helps the incoming signal.
and the Bigger question is Syncing the clock to Dac.
for example with Denafrips Reclocker , the most versatile I have seen with input outputs especially from Hermes, Gaia DCC reclockers most inputs,outputs, they have both 45,and 48 MHZ for clock sync. ,other dacs clocks may use 5-10 MHz ,this gets a bit confusing.
Here is a big question , say you have a very good dac with over clock ⏰,
Is there any advantage to syncing clock say from cheaper Iris DDC reclocker ,to the very good say Terminator oven controlled clock. The Big question is how does this work? Does the better clock in the dac dominate or influence the lesser clocks ?
or don’t bother syncing clock with cheaper Iris DDC ? Do you have to have a reclocker with = quality ⏰ clock to the dac to make it a Sonic improvement ?
these are the questions no one I know has been able to answer with absolute knowledge.
just the reclocker itself is worth wild for. It filters and cleans the incoming digital signal ,through usb,BNC,or coaxial cable, then reclocks signal to dac to have a pristine signal to read.. in this respect even a good basic reclocker like Iris would be very good ,on pontus and even Venus dac ,and Holo springs worked well
for $600, next Big step the $1250 Hermes better everything including oven controlled clocks ,if you can afford it. Syncing clocking is the big Question is there any benefit going from a lesser Iris clock in the Iris DDC reclocker syncing clock to say a Terminator + with far superior oven clocks?Is there any benefit ? If so why ? Thank you to Anyone who may have the expertise to logically explain this.
Hopefully Alvin Chee will see this ,Happy listening to your music .🎶 🎵
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Logically, if you have a "very good DAC", but you need some external "reclocking" device to make it work properly, is it a "very good DAC"? The Denafrips clock are a proprietary inter-device clock. This is different from 10MHz external clocks. If it is USB, then there is no connection between the USB clock and the clock used for the DAC output, so what is being "cleaned". With USB, there is definitely the potential for power supply and ground noise to get on the audio output of the DAC, but that is not a clock issue. If you started with a "very good DAC", I would hope it already addresses this issue. What are you using for your digital source? Old CD players, where the clock was synced to the mechanism, and the error correcting could even come into play often had high jitter. If your "very good DAC" is not "very good", perhaps if you are using TOSLINK, you could be introducing jitter, but that is happening at the DAC, so how is a reclocker going to help that. If you are not using a CD player, then we can assume you are streaming, and streaming sources are already starting with very low levels of jitter. Can your "very good DAC" not use an already low jitter source and give you good audio? A "very good DAC" could transformer isolate the SPDIF, or it could have an isolated SPDIF section, which would remove the noise issue. Is an external 10MHz clock, which has to transmit that clock via a cable, that connects to some IC in a DAC, that has to deal with the electrical noise between the two chassis (clock and DAC) going to be, without question, better than the internal clock in a "very good DAC"? In some systems, and with some DACS, noise isolation, power supply and grounds, can be beneficial, but that is almost always about noise directly getting into the analog output, not something that impacts the DAC circuitry and especially not in something designed right. Hence if you don't hear noise that you associate with power supply/ground loop issues, then it is unlikely you have a problem. The act of reclocking is suspect and for USB does not have meaning. If your DAC needs the input to be "reclocked" then perhaps your DAC is not as good as you thought. |
@audioman58 Hi using the Terminator with one of Denafrips re-clockers (DDC) I'm sure will be a fine solution. The clocks won't get degraded but I'm not sure how Denafrips' Terra connects to their system. If you have a very good server, as I said before, you probably won't need a re-clocker just the Terra Master Clock, but you also mentioned I2s so the Hermes etc. would be necessary. I just use a Mutec MC3+USB only in Word Clock mode coupled to my Aurender N20 and it makes a huge difference. Mutec 10MHz is on my shopping list after I decide on a new DAC. Cheers |
If you're considering adding a word clock, I suggest reading this review. I have the components reviewed (TEAC NT-505 and CG-10M) and would not recommend adding the word clock. The clocking in the NT-505 is already very good and to my ears there was little if any noticeable difference after adding the clock. Word clocks are used primarily in professional environments to synchronize multiple devices. I know some swear by them, and perhaps with lesser DACs they make a more noticeable difference. If you're considering upgrades, there are probably better ways to spend your money. |
I was told the terra master clock is not worth it for New Terminator-2 which is pretty much identical to the Terminstor + but difference is the 1k R2R resistors in both are even better spec then .005 in terminator2 , hand specked boards and rounded front ,I felt being within a few % save $$ and buy a decent reclocker will ping up to the $1250 Hermes with has over controlled clocks be a noticeable upgrade ? And syncing clocks is this a minor improvement ? if I bought a mytec how would I sync there clock to Denafrips that use 45, and 49 MHz ? It can get complicated it’s kind of a grey area , Thanks guys fir the input it’s a area most Audiophiles have not yet ventured out into the unknown.Many times if we don’t understand it we tend to just avoid it ,when in fact if we know how it works, and improves the fidelity then much more likely to buy it . this is where MFG companies should sharpen their skills to include information on a product such as DDC reclocking , and advantages and how to sync clocks to other brand dacs. |
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