Down To The Crunch

Kii's are more detailed to me than the D&D. I've trialed both in my house. The controller makes the Kii easier to use but still not easy. D&D is just becoming Roon ready so you only need an ethernet cable and some app (previous they had no app even).  I didn't realize the price difference was so big.  I would not pay $7k more for the Kii's but I did like them slightly better on most music. Be aware they cannot play overly loud, or at least couldn't a year or so ago. I think it was around 95 dB tops that they'd have issues and a limiter kicks in. I would verify this first before taking my word for it as it may have changed. I know this probably wasn't a huge help but net, net is I'd buy the D&D all day with that huge price difference.

I've heard the Genelec 8351b if you like Genelec they are close the D&D the Genelec is bit more detailed the Dutch a tad more bass. I would listen to the 8361a Genelec if you get a chance. Never got a chance to hear  the Kii .

What if was to negotiate and got the Kii 3's complete for $17K, Ya think their worth $4K more than the D7D 8Cs?

djones51 0 yes, heard the Genelecs, they sound great, but the aesthetic just aren't there, sorry.

I heard the D&Ds in November in the bay area. An in home session.

They have a live sound I found very appealing.

Never heard the  Kii brand. I find the the Dutch do things right.

I suppose you have eliminated the Active 50's from ATC

as too Strident?

I have listened to both, I would go for the D & D for sheer practicality; they are relatively simple to set up & operate, very easy to place, very easy to get to sound good.

I agree that the Kii sounded like they offered more hi frequency detail, but they seemed to overload quickly (in a large, 45m2 room) and they were not easy to set up & fine-tune.

All of the above is empirical, of course, and I listened to large scale orchestral music on both sets, i.e. the Kii may perform loud & clear on less complex music.

They are both outstanding designs IMO, as as is the large Genelec.