Tube Amp for Klipsch Forte IV's? Black Ice F-22 or Willsenton R8 with upgraded tubes?

thats great, not sure how that answers my question though

@audiocanada What is the size of your room? That speaker is rated at 99dB which suggests that in most room 25-60 watts should be plenty of power.

small room but open concept

I don't see how power would be an issue on the Fortes, maybe more so on the Luminas?

Really looking to understand what the better amp might be

The Fortes sound stunning and full range dynamic driven by the Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II.  

The version III is available for $3000 US.  Not sure how much it costs in Canada but a superior product to either of the mentioned amps.  

If the III is over budget look for a used II, pretty much bullet proof and with excellent Rogue Audio customer service.  

An all time excellent speaker and amplifier combination.  

For about the same $$ Quicksilver integrated would be a great choice.