Classical Music for Aficionados

@frogman 

Some people just like to argue and like to fool themselves into believing they have made an irrefutable point.

Your post is ridiculous.  What you have referred me to is a series of didactic, pedagogic pieces written in a pseudo-classical style intended for young students learning the violin.  I have run across more than one of these in the Suzuki teaching series my son went through when he was about 9 years old.  In fact a recording of his playing a Seitz piece, one of those on this page, at that age is my ring-tone for him.  

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and waddles like a duck and has all the indicia of a duck, it's a duck.

Similarly, Ashokan Farewell has ALL the indicia of a folk tune.  It's a folk tune.

Please, let's all go on to something else.

SAying that a duck is a duck is not the peak of knowledge...

Everybody know what a folk tune is...

And everybody know that some melodic line and simple harmony could be also deep music in a way we dont understand...

a duck is a duck only for walking unobservant distracted person...

No duck are like one another, even between ducks there is someting called individuality that pointed to somethink else about "ducks"...

Folk tune are not always only folk tune, they are sometimes key formula in esthetical and in spiritual experience...

The line between folk tune and classical music is not a THIN PERFECT line...

If it was so music would be not a so deep mystery....Ask Bartok...

By the way what i just said is almost common place not an "irrefutable point"..  because there is no arguing here save for you...

But a duck is duck is also a common place affirmation but a bit more superficial...

I will say it my way: all folk tune are not made equal, and all folk tune are not only simple folk tune thats all...

Life is a mystery not always a common place habit...

This folk tune interrogate most people by his beauty and reveal why the frontier between folk music and sophisticated music is not a common place ethnomusical matter only... Bartok thought so....

I apologize for precising my point here...

I go back into my hole....

Merry christmast to all....

There'll always be tunes & performances that exist somewhere between genres. Stop worrying. Love the bomb. ...I mean, the music.

Melm, you miss the point. Moreover, why the need to be so heavy handed? As I said, I don’t disagree with you about Ashokan. No desire to argue, but the particulars of your “argument” leave something (much) to be desired.

On the subjects of Leonard Bernstein (West Side Story), young music students, and “what is Classical music?”.  From a great (American) musical mind: