SET Shootout China VS The USA


2A3 SET from china arrives any day now.

The tech who loaned me his UX250 (aka 50 Tube) amp, with a  12AU7 in front + a  6BH7 (??) , has incredible pure Cobalt out trans. ($1k+ each back in 2000, now no longer in production). . he will help me set up the  2A3. 

Has a  AX+AU my 2 fav front tubes anda   quad of 2A3's. 

My speakers are pure neutrality, no coloration, no distortion,. 

So whatever amp/ source you plug in, will register the nuances inherent in the circuit.

Will be very interesting. 

USA has pure cobalt out trans which gives the edge in power, but the china 2A3 has a 2 tubes per channel.

Gonna be interesting and will post a  YT upload with comments,

AFTER TESTING IS COMPLETEED.

Hand on to your horses at the OK Corral. 

Grab a  beer at the saloon, 

sundown shootout at the edge of town. 

 

mozartfan

WEll sure, I'm very curious about Jadis' new KT170 tube design. 

I mean stunning.

 Some folks are raving about the KT150, now along comnes the KT170. But honestly, the EL34, KT88 , KT120 sounded near identical to my ears.

Its my guess the 150, 170 ain't gonna be **that** much different froma  El34 soundstage.

But when it comes to SET tube amplifaction, the nuance differences are more platable, more **nuanc-ED*

A 845 is going to  sound dif from a  2A3, ~~~whereas a  KT170, vs EL34, behind the cutain testing,,,can you guess which is which??

In certain recordings with  a very accurate, zero coloration speaker,, perhaps my tech can make the lucky guess.

I could not between his Allen Organ amp (fantastic amp!!) with KT120l s and his EL34 amp he designs.

Both very close,, with the Thor spaekers,, I had not heard both with my brand new Dual FR system...again,, these things need proper testing... 

 

Defy with new EH88's, vs UX250 vs 2A3,, all these thinsg will have to tested  with some general conclusions.

 

But it is  common acceptance, a  SET has some lenear magic in the midrange which not even Jadis' KT170 will be able to match.

Of course in dynamics, the KT170 might  surpass a  SET amp such as the big bad 845.

Power vs power. 

any-hoot, Here's my latest, I can tell you there is no roll off witha  good recording.

Plenty of bass, highs in this test. 

SIX lil old watts!!!!!

= are PP dated amplifiction?  now that we have new higher tech FR speakers avaliable. 

THe Coral beta 8 was good, but we have much better now.

Which makes the big power of a  PP amp, not really necessary. 

 

Just my opinion

 

 

 

enjoying the PP tube amps.

 

 

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OK yet have these enjoyers of PP amplification, heard a SET amp,,,with the *right* speaker?? This is the Q we must ask.. Let me say this , w/o dogamticism, w/o being pushy and over opinionated... IMHO, in my very limited exp, SETs give a more quieter sound field and a FR also gives a more quiter soundstage, Add these 2 together,,and what do you have?? This is what I am trying to express. Again, my opinion might change as further testing and experimentations continue. I know some of you have 2 systems just for the resaons I stated. But again , seems to my exp, a FR speaker will deliver nuances a xover low sens speaker fails at. My Thor cabinets just went out to the trash. This is the very same speaker that Joseph Audio lists at $12,000. Mine was superior, i had all high end Mundorf caps in the xover,, cost me $1100+ just the xovers. Gone and will never ever conisder a xover low sens speaker ever again in my life. Thus no need whatsoever for a PP amp. back to my original opinion, PP amps are not necessary. I’m stubborn in this belief.

I agree (albeit generally) with the Tech (who is quoted in the video by the video maker) -- PP sounds a bit better when it's limited to a couple tubes per side. I think we lose a bit of mojo when PP uses a bunch on each side. 

Is this you in the video?  How does one reach that turntable? 

I am a 1961 Robot in a Scaglietti works body.

Good robot.

All the best,
Nonoise