SET Shootout China VS The USA


2A3 SET from china arrives any day now.

The tech who loaned me his UX250 (aka 50 Tube) amp, with a  12AU7 in front + a  6BH7 (??) , has incredible pure Cobalt out trans. ($1k+ each back in 2000, now no longer in production). . he will help me set up the  2A3. 

Has a  AX+AU my 2 fav front tubes anda   quad of 2A3's. 

My speakers are pure neutrality, no coloration, no distortion,. 

So whatever amp/ source you plug in, will register the nuances inherent in the circuit.

Will be very interesting. 

USA has pure cobalt out trans which gives the edge in power, but the china 2A3 has a 2 tubes per channel.

Gonna be interesting and will post a  YT upload with comments,

AFTER TESTING IS COMPLETEED.

Hand on to your horses at the OK Corral. 

Grab a  beer at the saloon, 

sundown shootout at the edge of town. 

 

mozartfan

credibility. For instance, I have an el34 based amplifier in my closet which would likely change your opinion about absolute tube type superiority.

 

 

EL34=KT88=KT120=KT150 hardly even a nuance difference. One has more power vs the other is all I noted. now 2A3 is different vs KT series. Just my 2 cent opinion, Take it or leave it.

Last of my ideas on this matter,,,,, Jadis’ KT170, now here might be something special. Still I ’ll take a 2A3 PP (not SET) vs jadis KT170. Just my opinion, take ir or leave it.

@ charles 1 

if I follow the crowd,, what will I learn?

Thats not already common knowledge??

Who would have ever suggested a  SET type PP design??

Never heard sucha  thing as a  low watt PP circuit.

Now my FR hasa   good match.

I was  always thinking,, KT PP is too much power. Yet SET's not enough dynamics for big full orchestra...

Dilemma.

 

However I did have at one time a  Cayin El34  smallest Cayin model , had ultra linear and triode switch..

I sold it off a  few months later,  thinking not enough drive for the Thors.

Yet perhaps a perfect match fora  FR system..

This  lil 2A3 PP is the answer to my quest for the ideal amplification for a  FR system. 

Hopefully the tubes can  hold up under a  four driver  load speaker system. 

If the tubes begin shorting out too early,, I may have to drop  some drivers and make ita  single FR + a  single tweeter.

Time will tell....

If so, then the Defy will have to carry the dual FR + dual tweeters/big orchestra. 

The 2A3 only for light chamber, solo piano., single FR + single tweeter. 

 

 

if I follow the crowd,, what will I learn

@mozartfan 

Follow the crowd? I am the one encouraging you to continue your current discoveries in regard to tubes and particularly DHT tubes. Again you have a tendency (In my opinion) to make judgements hastily. But in the end you have to be you. BTW,  DHT push pull amplifiers are nothing new, have been around for some time. I do understand that this genre is new to you.  Best of luck to you.

Charles 

The meshplate triode tube I am familiar with is the EML 2a3.  I ran a quad of these in my Audio Note Kageki amps (parallel single-ended).  I like their sound.  The soundstage was gigantic, open and enveloping.  If someone thought it was a by hyper-realistic (in a technicolor sort of way), I would not disagree.  A friend thought it sounded a touch phasey; I would sort of agree, but, image placement was precise, so it was not truly out-of-phase sounding.  

The most exotic meshplate I've heard is a meshplate 252.  This tube is so rare that I know someone who was offered a trade of a pair of solidplate 252 plus $20,000 forin exchange for a pair of meshplate 252s.  The offer was declined. 

By the way, the Western Electric 59As (the amp that runs 252s) is a terrific sounding amp.  I could never afford the amp, and even if I had one, I could not see running it very often because of the crazy cost of its tubes.