in a word: Adam smith+Marx+Freud+Darwin FOUR alleged geniuses coming really from only one sourcing head before them ... History is a great master when we read it...

all these ideas comes from ONLY one source : Bernard Mandeville...

verify by yourself...

Guess who study Mandeville till this day like an operating manual ?

A cue:

Dr. Bernard Mandeville. Lecture on a Master Mind.

HAYEK Friedrich August von (1966.)

In this conference Hayek pointed out the fact that Mandeville is a greater psychological and sociological master than an economical master like Keynes think he was ...

Think about that Keynes and Hayek arguing about in what field this genius is the greatest...

Invite Rockfeller now and Karl Schwab and ask them where Mandeville is the greatest , they will say manipulation of masses and Crowd psychology...

Ask the father of transhumanism in which field Mandeville is the greatest: they will answer that he is the FIRST to understand animals are perfect robot after Descartes but contrary to Descartes he was the first to PROVE it and he demonstrate how men is a workable animals and future cyborg in a perfect hive...

Now guess what Freud and his nephew Edward Bernays would say about our master....They will say that he discover the unconscious and his way of working in a more general way than Freud himself thought in a more restricted way because Freud had no deep sociological insight in the collective....

Ask the dead Marx how the Mandeville more general class theory struggles explained his own more restricted class theory linked to a more superficial economical insight than in liberal economy thinkers before him, all of which come anyway already from Mandeville...

I will let that to pounder in you...

When genius are too deep or too clever nobody understand them save a few for the worst or for the better...

Ask Darwin and he will say that Mandeville idea of society influence him at least on par with Malthus....And even Maltus read Mandeville anyway through Adam Smith which is indepted to Mandeville for most of his ideas...

Ok no single man could explain history and all ideas by himself alone...

My sketched arguments here was to UNDERLINE a deep undercurrent with one of his first conscious source till powerful today...

Then think and dont argue that Mandeville cannot explain all there is in the last 3 centuries i know that perfectly well...

But Chance dont explain why so much of the more powerful influent ideologies to come after Mandevillre were all in the single egg of his story of the fable of the bees and his subsequent works of philosophy....

I wrote all this to make you think about the ACTUAL CRISIS and his meaning...Not reading newspaper but genius itself...

Dont read audio magazine read Helmholtz and some acousticians...

 

Dont upgrade your brain embed it rightfully....

It is not Nietszche who finally could understood mankind folly after Mandeville master control theory, it is Dostoievsky the deepest Christian critic who explain it all and is way more deep than Mandeville himself...

If you dont like to read much, read the short novel so deep than it takes many reading to undertstand it a bit :

«the dream of a ridiculous man"

All the sory of the spiritual cosmos in a few pages...

Dostoievsky is so deep almost all scientist nowadays dont even understood him a bit and will file his book on the rubric religious madness...

Only Goethe is on par with Dostoievsky genius but not about human society, almost no one here is on par with D. but about the meaning of science and his relation to the soul....

Goethe cannot be filed in the rubric "religious madness"...He was a natural scientist on par with Darwin whicih is unrecognized even today in english circle, and after his death his collection of natural samples minerals,vegetals,or animals was one of the greatest in Europe...Goethe has developed his own evolution and mophological very deep theory and method deeper than Darwin...But less easy to explain and less easy to use in the wrong way... Very few mewn in history are on par with him with intelligence: Leonardo Da vinci, Archimedes, Aristotle dont look for any men under these geniuses for axample... Who is the only poet to contradict Newton and proving him wrong? Guess who....

But Goethe is too deep to begin with and less essential in understanding society than D....

Read only masters and disciples of the masters...

For sure all is already written in few words by Lao-Tse or Christ....But it is too deeply implicit here to be taken seriously by supposed enlightened mind of today...

If you want very short version of the spiritual cosmos history with no christian influence, then take Friedrich Von Kleist few pages "Puppets Theater" ..

A treatise in few pages so deep that he resume ALL martial arts and all mankind history like the Genesis book but in a very different perspective...

Goethe himself encountered Kleist and was "afraid" by this overpowering uncontrolled genius... That speak volume about Goethe and about Kleist...Alas! Kleist suffer too much to stay balanced exactly like Nietszche was ....

My posts remind me of my job now retired i was teaching multidisciplinary reading analysis...

The main important fact in reading analysis is the complementary interprenetrating contextual perspective in all fields... Contrary to relativistic deconstruction method my understanding was that there is only ONE fact in the universe: all is one....

i thank all for your patience with my loneliness...

 

 

 

 

We're living in the land of make-believe
And trying not to let it show
Maybe in that land of make-believe
Heartaches can turn into joy.
We're breathing in the smoke of high and low
We're taking up a lot of room
Somewhere in the dark and silent night
Our prayer will be heard, make it soon.
So fly little bird
Up into the clear blue sky
And carry the word
Love's the only reason why, why.
OPen up the shutters on your windows
Unlock all the locks upon your doors
Brush away the cobwebs from your day-dreams
No secrets come between us any more
Oh say it's true
Only love will see you through
You know what love can do to you.

Thanks for this poem that speak more well than any analysis anyway...

Poets are salt of the earth....

Best thread I've read here in a while.  It confirms the self-evident, yet brutal strength of truth: it exists regardless of what I or anyone else thinks or understands.