Harbeth again…or other speakers for acoustic music?


Hi!

I’ve been without any decent hifi setup for a few years now but lately had the thoughts of investing in a good system again. Let me tell you little about my background and what I’m searching for. I live in a place far from any hifi-stores, I’ve not so much experience of listening to a lot of different systems or visiting hifi shows, but I’ve been playing music myself, mostly jazz, for about 20 years and have been in many performances both as musician and as audience.

About 5 years ago I first bought a pair of Harbeth P3 second hand along with a Rega amp. Pretty soon I wanted something bigger in scale so I swapped the speakers for a pair of 30.1 and the amp for a Croft 25/7 combo. The sound was really really good in so many ways, best sound and midrange I’ve ever heard before! Even though my apartment back then was not optimal with concrete walls the vocals was very lifelike. But after a while I feeling somehow that something was missing. I’m no bass junkie or so but I was tempted to try something that had little more depth and covered the bass region better, so I was started looking at SHL5+ and C7ES3. I also thought about integration some subs but never tried that route. Swapped the 30.1 for C7 but I was immediately disappointed. I never got them to sound good at my place. I thought they lacked the magic I felt 30.1 had.

 

I ended up selling all my gear, but the sound of 30.1 and Croft combo really etched back in my mind. It was more emotional to listen to music as I ever before had experienced. I prefer listen to acoustic music, jazz, small groups ensembles but occasional big band and some lighter pop, but looking for something that excells with vocals and acoustic instruments. It can absolutely be little on the warmer sound, I can’t stand harsh and cold sound.


So now I’m looking for a system again and would like to hear what suggestions you have. I listen to low to modest volumes. No heavy rock or metal. I need something that can play good on low volume. HE speakers and a SET amp would be an alternative but also is Harbeth. I know there’s 30.2 now and XD. Integrating with subs could be Ok. My living room is about 15x12 feet and the speakers cannot be to big and dominant, ex Quad ESL is not an option. There is a few softer walls and I think 1 concrete wall.

 

Happy to hear your thoughts..

philsons

Harbeths are too colored for my taste.

I agree. I demoed the M30.2’s a few times. Not for me.

There’s a Youtube video where GR Research takes apart the small Harbeths. I couldn’t believe the crossover for a 2 way. It’s is made up of about 30 cheap parts. 

 

I owned 40.1's for 8 years and loved them, but agree your room is likely too small to accommodate Harbeth 40 series.  I had the non + version of SHL5's for about a year... they were just okay, but like @timo62 , I found their top end to be too much for my liking.  The 30 series with a REL subwoofer or two may be a good option, but will take patience on your end to get them to integrate properly... I've struggled to get subs to integrate well in the past, so I stick with full range speakers.  You should consider Audio Note and Spendor SP1/2's.   

Tanmoy or Audio Note speakers with a good 300b SET will be very very good for your listening

@pdreher Thanks for your input. That’s the one thing I’m little afraid of with the SHL5+, that the top end can be little to much and feels bright after a while. But I know many people seems to love that speaker very much.

I just read the Stereophile article about SVS Micro 3000 that @steveashe mentioned. It sounds that it’s performing very very well AND he also reviewed it along with Harbeth 30.2! Here’s the article.

 

@pani Thanks, I’ll look more into AN speakers. I’m guessing AN amp would be ideal choice together?