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Nietzsche and Runaway Audio Consumption

Came across this today. A lot of posts bring up the issue of "how much is enough?" or "when is audio consumption justified" etc.

Does this Nietzsche aphorism apply to audio buying? You be the judge! 

Friedrich Nietzsche: “Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. 

Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.” 

Nietzsche, Friedrich. 1996. Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits. Cambridge University Press. (p. 283-4, an aphorism no. 310)

I'm pretty sure @mahgister will want to read this one! (Because they speak so artfully about avoiding the diversion that consumption poses to the quest for true aesthetic and acoustic excellence.)

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To answer your post, it is now well accepted historically that the ancient mysteries schools around the mediterranean sea, for example at Eleusis, used probably different methods, like isolation, incubation, method of asphyxiation, tainted beer or wine with hallucigenic natural product and not so much to create pleasurable experience like in the hippies era but for a sacred very serious methodically planned OUT OF BODY and NEAR DEATH experience or induced coma like trance for direct spiritual transformation

 

Spiritual experiences are non propositional real experience which are undescribeable , transcending usual discourse...

Religions are based on original experience which were denatured or forgotten or reduced to propositional dogmas oblivious of the spiritual original event...

And now for something completely different. Do you believe one can cultivate the spirit through hallucinogenic substances? Does proper intention alongside hallucinogenic ingestion create space for seeing the unseen.

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mahgister
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It seems contrary to some who criticized me about beiing monologous that many people asked questions for me and i discussed...

My posts are numerous and lenghty yes... Is there no content in it? who will dare to claim that to my face?

Small people easily are jealous and spit instead of discussing...Some spit politely like the OP who never discuss any of my posts and some other who never discuss them spitted way less politely..

 

Thanks to the many others who make me feel less alone in Christmast...

 

«When the head cannot work  anymore or dont want it, the mouth spit»- Fictive invented maxim from unknown native american origin

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Well the posts are off topic and nothing to do with audio or music  but so what? Technically it’s unsolicited so spam no matter and there are rules/guidelines about that. Solution is start a thread on the topic and tie it to audio or music. Then it’s legit and not spam.

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The OP wisely linked a N. quote about spirit and consumerism in audio...Then think about what you just wrote...SPIRIT/ CONSUMERISM/ AUDIO this was the matter of the thread not audio ONLY... Then you just lied or you are slow brain ....

All my posts were by me directly related to the essential experience of the relation of sound/music and acoustic and psycho-acoustic and to some seemingly unrelated aspects of reality and history which are nonetheless anyway related to the human experience of music and of spirit .... All fields of human experience are related...Consumerism for example is not born in America, his roots are deep into history...Mandeville which i spoke about is one of this root...

Calling my posts spam is insulting ....Your non constructive posts adding nothing in information content maybe more spam than my commentaries with CONTENT to the complex topic of Spirit/consumerism/audio...

i dont hope that you will understand...

You have never added here any original concept in audio, unlike me, and most of your post are negative one against someone with no conceptual content...You miss arguing against geoffkait? And you call my posts spam...

Ridiculous dont kill ....

Well the posts are off topic and nothing to do with audio or music but so what?

 

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