''Óriginal parts'', ''identity '' and ''retip'' conundrum
The ''identity enigma'' is easy to explain with ''ownership''. Not everyone is familiar with logic or philosophy but everyone owns something or other.
Ownership assume ''one to one relation'' between an person (legal
bodies included) and one object of ownership. Think of question how
you can prove to own some object. You can also think about question
how to prove to be owner of, say an part of your stolen car.
What the ''force'' of the expression ''original'' is , is an enigma.
However Americans are typical example of people who are very
fond of ''original parts'' and willing to pay huge amount of money
for the ''precious'' (grin). By the so called ''retips'' the assumption
is also ''original'' versus ''not original parts''. This means that
every manufacturer as well ''retiper'' uses his own styli and or
cantilevers. The fact however is that they all buy those ''parts''
by either by Namiki or Ogura. So, logicaly speaking, the origin
of those ''parts'' are either Namiki or Ogura. Is gluing an cantilever/
stylus combo in the ''joint pipe'' rocket science?
@nandric I was speaking of high end cartridges, all or partially made by hand, not assembly line. As for assembly line cartridges, I do expect sample to sample variation, because of materials or tolerances - that is, serendipity. I retired from teaching, so I have no obligation to correct you. Nevertheless, I can point you to a good reference, Thouless's 'Straight and Crooked Thinking'. It's quite accessible. Then try Wittgenstein's 'Blue and Brown Books', less accessible, but not too hard.. |
terry, ''elementary logic'' has this form: ''If P then p&q'' This means: if the premise is true than also the deduced sentences p&q But if ''P is not true neither are p&g''. You specify your Premise ''ex post''. In JCarr explanation you now assume 3th of 4 th level styli and cantilevers. which are ordered by either Ogura or Namiki. My (arbitrary line) was $3000. This is my assumption about ( dover's) budget . What an ''average'' member can pay for an cart. So I deed provide my PREMISE IN ADVANCE but you deed not.. For ''my level'' of styli and cantilevers an retip with the combo is +./- 500 euro. Stylus solo is not easy to find because this retip is ,ore difficult to do. This explanation I got from my friend Axel with + 40 years experience with cartridge repair. The combo is more easy and also more expensive. He also got styli and cantilevers from either Ogura or Namiki. Think now again about my statement: ''why should an manufacturer do this job better''?
Who cares about +15 K carts with 4th level (diamond) cantilevers and ''gold plated'' styli (grin). |
Well obviously you do, because you seem obsessed with trying to delude yourself that retipping is the same as rebuilding. You appear to be completely unaware, or unable to accept that if a cartridge is a few years old, then refurbishing should include checking the dampers, checking for any mechanical or electrical issues and addressing them at the same time. You apparently have learnt nothing from JCarrs post above where he clearly explains that many of the cantilevers/styli can be unique or custom. configured for individual manufacturers. My Dynavector Karat Nova 13D is a prime example. The cantilever and styli cannot be obtained from anyone other than Dyanvector. In fact I have seen on this forum a well known member trying to flog a Dynavector Karat Nova 13D off with a home-brew aftermarket cantilever. It was no longer a Dynavector Karat Nova 13D as designed ( and looked like a small dog with it's lipstick hanging out ). It is none of your business what I pay for a manufacturers rebuild, but my decision on whether to rebuild is no different to anyone else What is the cost of rebuild ? Can I get a better cartridge for the same budget ? It is very simple. Its called cost benefit analysis. And contrary to your misplaced envy, no one needs to spend $1000's of dollars on a cartridge to get a great sound. Currently, despite having the Dynavecto Karat Nova 13D and Ikeda Kiwame ( both purchased new and as new ) I am currently enjoying my old Denon 103D ( bog standard, purchased new some years ago and not used much ). I'm still getting a better sound than most simply because of my system which has been carefully assembled over 30 years. Don't take my word for it - here's what a visitor said who bought an old DD off me ( who has a Stereophile Class A TT and several megabuck cartridges - https://darklantern.proboards.com/thread/721/direct-drive-thread
Good audio has nothing to do with price, its all about putting together a system properly integrated that is coherent, musical and transparent to source.
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