Aqua 'La Diva' ($9k) or Gryphon 'Ethos' ($39k) versus. Pro-Ject CD Box RS2 T ($3k)?


What sensible rationale is there for buying either of the two above-mentioned VERY COSTLY CD spinners (Aqua ’La Diva,’ a CD-only transport, and the Gryphon ’Ethos,’ a CD player with built-in DAC) when we can get the same pure Red-Book CD digital output from the Pro-Ject CD Box RS2 T for FAR less money?

What is a potential buyer getting for their significantly increased expenditure other than fancy packaging and possibly a boost to their egos from ownership of a prestige brand-name item? The one component (and a crucially-significant one at that) which all three of these products have in common is the new Philips-based Stream Unlimited CD Pro 8 CD player mechanism. Aside than that, what one appears to get with the two far-higher-priced components is little more than pure window-dressing, not substantive gains in performance over the CD Box RS2 T.

It is little wonder that one reviewer of the RS2 T thinks of it as nothing less than a "giant killer," in that it makes it nearly impossible for any level-headed purchaser, even one with the means to spend lavishly, to rationalize spending thousands of dollars more on these two competing products (or on others like them) when one can get the same sonic results (which from most reports are splendid) from the humble little CD Box.

Any thoughts? Do we audiophiles finally have good reason to come to our buying senses? To me, Pro-Ject Audio Systems may have struck a true winning vein with their CD Box when prospecting for gold.

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Charles, you are right to separate the truly absurdly-priced Gryphon ’Ethos’ at $39k from the far more reasonably-priced (by comparison) Aqua ’La Diva’ transport at $9k, which is four times less costly. You can buy yourself a pretty decent automobile for $39k!

I myself am becoming curious to know what Aqua has done with its build incorporating the CD Unlimited Pro-8 drive, also used in Pro-Ject’s RS2 T.

I must confess that I was initially blown away by the price differential among these three machines.

@erictal4075 

I'll differ with you on one point.  I don't feel that the Gryphon ETHOS CD player is ridiculously priced.  It is  targeted for those shopping in a very specific and exclusive segment.  Everyone is free to determine their discretionary spending budget. 

My interest and focus is toward the common ground utilization of the newest tech,  the Stream Unlimited CD Pro-8 drive. There are currently 3 brands that have selected for their dedicated CD transports.

Accustic Arts Drive II. 18K

Aqua Hifi La Diva M2. 9K

Pro-Ject CD BOX RS2T.3K

My singular curiosity is what are the two higher cost transports doing with the excellent CD drive unit above and beyond Pro-Ject' s implementation,  and if and how does it impact the sound quality and to what extent? Just pure interest,. The Pro-Ject transport comes with a wall wart power supply and sounds terrific.  An optional  LPS is available which is said to improve the sound quality. 

The Accustic Arts and Aqua Hifi transports have LPS as standard. Both are noticeably larger, heavier and in my opinion more visually appealing/attractive compared to the diminutive and understated Pro-Ject. Further curiosity is how do the Accustic Arts and Aqua Hifi differ between each other?

I'm awaiting a Fidelizer Nikola 2 LPS and will see what I hear with it compared to the SMPS wall wart.

Charles 

Immersed in watching the video I posted above, I see a connection between the kind of inspired talent those railway engineers of so long ago displayed so spectacularly and courageously applies in a different but equally impressive way to what the best minds of today are doing when confronting the challenges of converting digital "ones and zeros" into analog sound that our ears and brains can perceive as a true-to-life replication of the original recorded event. Pioneering efforts all the way around.

“Transports and servers are crucial partners and their level of quality matters.”

@charles1dad

I am in complete agreement. I love to own a player like Ethos or La Diva but instead I’ve taken a slightly different approach to digital playback. Instead of relying on CD transports, I bought a high quality CD ripper with SSD storage last year. After extensive A/B, I could not discern any audible differences between a CD playback and the ripped tracks of the same albums played through my DAC. BTW, I am still buying CD’s that offers superior recording quality and ripping them to SSD for playback :-)

Late last year, I’ve upgraded my DAC that eliminated the need for a external server or streamer. It has also eliminated the need to rely on vulnerable digital protocols like USB, AES or SPDIF. I couldn’t be any happier!

The best CD transport of the world is of Esoteric. Vrds Atlas. Dcs Vivaldi One use the Vrds Neo that is of much lower quality that Vrds Atlas. It costs $80000.