A new way of adjusting anti skate!


I was looking at the Wallyskater, a $250 or so contraption used to set anti skate. https://www.wallyanalog.com/wallyskater  It is reputedly the most accurate way to set anti skate. Talking about fiddly. 

The appropriate figure is 9 to 11 percent of VTF. So if you are tracking at 2 grams you want 0.2 grams of anti skate.
My Charisma tracks at 2.4 grams so I should set the anti skate for 0.24 grams..................................Bright light!.
I readjusted the Syrinx PU3 to zero so that it was floating horizontally. I set up a digital VTF gauge on it's side at the edge of the platter so that the finger lift would be in the cross hairs, activated the anti skate and was easily able to adjust it to 0.24 grams. I started at 0.18 grams and just added a little more. Whatever you measure the anti skate from it has to be at the same radius as the stylus. If you do not have a finger lift at the right location you can tack a toothpick to the head shell and measure from that. As long as you have the whole affair balanced at zero you will be fine. Added cost $0.00 as long as you have a digital VTF gauge. 

I would not buy stock in Wallyskater.
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Thank you. The method in my video is a starting point and most it is ok. I also measure distortion with Adjust+ on each channel and phase identity.

To measure the as-force out of the groove i test this

https://www.briefwaage.eu/shop/my-weigh-jim-federzugwaage-stiftwaage-5g.php

Dear dover, who pretend to have ever won any argument ''against''

me? You are only stating  an hypothetical case. 

Dear Mijo, I never said the skating force was not affected by groove modulation. In fact, I agreed that it IS affected by groove modulation, which I described as “tortuosity”. My objection was to your repeated insistence that velocity or speed affects the friction force. It does not. Not because I say so, but because the equation for friction force says so. Thus we have to find another mechanism for the effect of groove modulation on the skating force that does work with accepted theory. I described two possibilities: (1) groove tortuosity causes momentary acceleration of the cartridge moving mass that also pulls the arm inward, adding to the skating force, and (2) Groove tortuosity causes mistracking. Mistracking causes momentary variation in VTF. VTF does affect friction and the skating force.

 

Wally, It is my impression that underhung tonearms elicit a skating force in BOTH directions.  The force changes direction (where by "direction" I mean toward the spindle vs away from the spindle) at the single null point, where for one magical moment, there is zero skating force. So if you made a graph of the the skating force across the surface of an LP, for an underhung tonearm, you would get a straight line, give or take, that starts on the positive side of the X-axis, passes through zero at the X-axis, representing the null point, and ends up on the negative side of the X-axis.

 

Also, is it not the case that headshell offset angle does produce a skating force all by itself, at each of the two null points for an overhung tonearm, where the stylus is tangent to the groove but headshell offset still produces skating force?

Hi lewm,

Study the Effective Moment Arm in the download. Imagine how it would be drawn if the stylus were underhung at various radii. Your answers should be there! By the way, drop the idea of null points having a significant influence on skating force. If they did, a graph of skating force (independent of changes in coefficient of friction) would not be a parabola but more of a "W" shape with the lower Y-axis points in the graph sitting at the null points along the X axis.

So: drop thoughts of null points and offset angle. Think only in terms of Effective Moment Arm (look closely at how it is drawn/determined) and coefficient of friction.

Hi ninetynine. Measuring anti-skating force using a multivariate test as it seems you may be doing with a test record and an analysis of the electrical signal is fraught with many problems. Like a mosquito at a nudist colony beach, I'm not even sure where to begin!

Measuring crosstalk is the one and only multivariate test that I will allow done - and only because there is no alternative. This is because SO MANY things need to be right before you can trust the validity of the data you get from these multivariate analyses.

However, I have done a study of the cutterhead stylus alignments on the azimuth axis on 9 different test records and can confidently report that this industry is a bit of a mess. This industry has the technology to make styli that truly replicate the cutterhead stylus contact profile (Shibata was NEVER one of those) and equipment that can reveal the finest iota of information from the groove when all parameters are in alignment, yet the engineers making our test records - that we must trust to use to align our styli by - can't agree with each other by a factor of several magnitudes of unforgivable. We will be releasing data in our own study soon.