Paypal Changes for 2022


If I understand this correctly, Paypal, along with all on-line payment sources like Venmo, etc. will now be sending out 1099 forms for all payments totaling $600 you receive in 2022 for goods or services.  The only way around this is to use Paypal friends and family for payment which eliminates any buyer protections.  Is everyone aware of this?

 

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and that’s great, as this is a side business for you. However, the vast majority of audio enthusiasts selling gear here or in other places using PayPal, do this for pleasure, not a business (i.e. selling something to upgrade to a better / newer unit). THAT is the problem.

BTW, Here’s one for you. You do know if you buy something, even used, and you ultimately sell it for more than you paid, the difference is a taxable event. Art, antiques, exotic cars are usually hit hard on this. Let's say you bought a sports car for $16,000...Had it for 13 years. Sold it for $40,000,  My accountant told me the difference, minus and expenses you incurred directly related to the car, was a taxable event. Forty years ago you bought a McIntosch XYZ for $1000 and you sell it today $5000....$4000 is taxable...(Not sure if you can deduct the electricity used to run it...Talk to your accountant.....) ....BTW, depending on the accountant, you might hear the term.."Casual Sale"....Be careful with this one. Talk to your lawyer or accountant to be sure.

Relax, you will simply certify that you paid $5,000, that you didnt save the receipt and that you didnt know years ago that you would need it. This isn’t the Spanish Inquisition. Much ado about nothing…unless someone has been running a side business without paying income taxes. Nothing will collapse, the earth will still spin and the sun will rise. I don’t have a great deal of heartburn about a system attempting to encourage compliance. Im a “everyone should follow the rules and if they dont they should pay the consequences” kind of person.

See the attached Everyone calm down.

 

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A few days ago, I received a text from an acquaintance asking why the IRS was starting to track individual users’ Venmo transactions. As someone fairly tuned into the financial world, I was confused that I had heard nothing about this.

Searches on Google and Twitter quickly yielded a flurry of panicked and angry responses to a change in tax law put into effect by the American Rescue Plan last year that lowers the reporting threshold for business transactions on mobile payment apps. But users were largely mistaken to believe the change applied to them. The IRS is not requiring individuals to report or pay taxes on individual Venmo, Cash App, PayPal or Zelle transactions over $600. 

Rather, small business owners, independent contractors and those with a side hustle who use third-party payment apps for commercial payments will have their total transaction value over that threshold reported to the agency by the apps. Previously, it was $20,000 and 200 transactions. This also applies to those who run an eBay shop, for example, or any other online store that accepts payment cards, according to the IRS.

“There’s been a lot of misunderstanding about the tax reporting changes,” says Garrett Watson, senior policy analyst at the Tax Foundation. “It doesn’t change anything about if any transactions are taxed or not.” In other words, the IRS is not starting to tax individual transactions between family and friends. 

Splitting dinner with your friend, sending your roommate money for rent or gifting your cousin a round of birthday drinks? Don’t sweat it. “It’s not taxable,” Watson says.

That has been miscommunicated to many people, who seem to believe the IRS will be tracking every user’s account. Ambiguous headlines could be partly to blame. But the agency will receive aggregate transaction amounts from the payments apps about commercial transactions, Watson says, not information on specific payments.

Small business owners, those with a side hustle and others who receive commercial payments for goods or services through the apps will receive a 1099-K form from the payment apps, which will give the IRS more information about the business transactions being made on the platforms that often go unreported, Watson says. The change took effect Jan. 1, 2022, so filers don’t need to worry about it this tax filing season.

If your transaction is flagged by the IRS, Watson says you may receive correspondence from the agency that you can clear up with a receipt, bank statement or explanation. The only time you might really need to worry about being audited, he says, is if you move an “unusual” amount of money on the platform. But that’s always been the case.

“If we’re talking about a significant figure, into the five or six figures, of course you would want documentation,” he says. “But normal folks using it day to day, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. It shouldn’t dissuade you from using [the apps].”

It kills me that the guys screaming about the deficit are the same guys who think they shouldn't pay taxes.