A better way to stream


Recently I've been proposing a two ethernet port solution as optimal for a streaming setup with optical conversion and/or separate server and streamer/end point.

 

Originally, I used a simple server only setup, using usb out to dac, but over the years my research showed many converting to two computer setups (server/streamer) with great results. At the time I wasn't using a switch so in trying to figure out how I could make this happen I came across this interesting thread, https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/#comment-613370

 

As a result I was able to convert to two computer setup with great results. Since then I've tried any number of devices, both prior to and after server. By far the most effective have been post server, with optical conversion and quality streamer being amongst best overall upgrades.

 

With the two ethernet port setup one can do away with audiophile switch (the idea of which is quite contentious anyway). Why detour back  through an ethernet cable, through the switch, then yet another ethernet cable only to end up in the same place you could with a single ethernet cable with the two ethernet port setup. More possibility for noise to enter chain is never a good thing with streaming. 

 

It seems very few server manufacturers understand the inherent advantages of dual ethernet port  setups with exception of Antipodes and Small Green Computer, perhaps others I'm not aware of, please inform if there are. They should at least offer it so people can at least try optimum setup for server/streamer with present server.

 

Say what you will about server/streamer setups vs. servers alone, but the mere fact you have to go back through the same circuitous route mentioned above to try optical isolation is another demerit for the single ethernet port solution. Optical conversion, in my experience, has been easily one of the best, if not the best streaming upgrade I've experienced. This, and the optimal interface to separate streamer, together make the dual ethernet port solution a deal breaker for servers without.

 

I can only tell people to try for themselves different streaming setups, there are so many varieties sometimes its hard to keep track of. I can only say the opportunity to optimally interface with optical and/or separate streamers/end points makes dual ethernet port servers inherently superior to servers without.

 

 

sns

Interesting comments on streaming!

Do your recommendations apply mainly to a Roon-based system, where separation of the Roon core and endpoint is often encouraged or do they apply to any system that includes both server and streamer functions?

In designing the PhoenixNet network switch, Innuos found that converting light into an electrical signal introduced more noise than using copper connections. If that is true, why do you think you are finding improvements in sound quality with extensive use of optical converters?

 

A streamer as endpoint would be applicable in case of Roon. Other software like Euphony Stylus can also benefit as well. Depending on streamer, many other functions may be available which also may be beneficial.

 

The other advantage as I stated previously is ability to bypass the contentious network switch. Another possible advantage is superior clocking that may be incorporated in renderer/endpoint/streamer (goes by many names and functions).

 

The greatest possible disadvantage of streamer only setups is likely usb out, usb can be much improved by the rendering provided by many of these outboard devices. I observe atx servers provide much better usb rendering within, usb boards like Pink Faun, Jcat. How much rendering are these off the shelf servers offering?

 

Perhaps Innuos amd some others playing marketing games stating this finding. Yes, many are finding FMC can be both high value proposition and/or most effective means to lower noise floor on network. Optical provides complete isolation from noise caused by upstream components. EMI/RFI both generated within and bombards network equipment and following on grounds is completely eliminated, filters only filter.

 

In the end, only listening will determine value of optical for any particular setup. Two generic FMC and optical cable can be tried for minimal cost. Optical conversion is easily most universally positively reviewed network component I'm aware of.