Totally overwhelmed (speakers under $5k)


I am newer to the audiophile community and don't have much in the way of higher end gear to be honest.  I have been upgrading things as I go with my home theater (now Anthem receiver, Martin Logan speakers, and SVS sub) and am now wanting to upgrade my music system that is in my home office.  It is currently equipment that was originally in my home theater that has been replaced.  So I have a BasX preamp, 7 channel solid state BasX amp running 2 channel, T2+ speakers, and cabling all from Emotive.  The wires are basic copper speaker wire with banana plugs on the ends.  And I have an RSL Speedwoofer 10"  subwoofer. My source is Amazon Music HD on a Macbook Pro fed to the preamp by an optical cable. All in all it sounds pretty good but I want to take it up a notch.  

The other day I spoke with James at Raven Audio about cables and he said suggested that I would actually get a lot more bang by upgrading my equipment than worrying about my cables (which is fair).  Of course he is a fan of his own brand's amps and speakers but he also said very good things about Dynaudio and Focal (which I do have some experience with for car audio and headphones).  In doing research on the Raven Audio speakers, I have seen people lauding the Tekton Moab, Aperion Verus III, as well as others.  When I do searches for "best speakers under $5000" I get lots of mainstream review sites that talk about brands like Definitive Technologies, Polk, KEF, Klipsch, SVS, and more.  But they generally don't talk about Ravel, Tekton, or any of those. I assume it is because they are too small. 

Honestly though, at this point I am overwhelmed. Too many brands with too many speakers and where I live there are not a lot of shops to go listen to these higher end speakers. I have seen lots of debates on here along with folks that really have their definite opinions.  Here are my requirements and hopefully I can gain some knowledge, insight, and direction from folks on this site that have much greater experience than myself. 

1) I want speakers that are clear and clean with lots of detail.  But I also want to be able to just listen to the music, being immersed without having my ears ringing from the sharpness after a bit.

2) I want to be able to plug them into my current preamp and solid state amp and be able to enjoy them as is.  Later on, if/when I decide to change the amp to a tube amp, I want them to be able to work well with those characteristics too. 

3) I want the new price to be limited to $5k and under.  I am open to used in the right circumstances but hoping to get a smoking deal on some used $15k speakers (like some Legacy's) is just wishful thinking at this point.  With new, you know what you are getting and will have a warranty.  

4) I listen to all sorts of music so it needs to be able to switch between rock, heavy metal, classical, jazz, hip hop, bag pipes, and everything in between.  

5) Subwoofer is optional.  I have the Speedwoofer currently which is know is not perfect for music (ported).  I am fine upgrading to a sealed SVS at some point or getting towers that don't even need a sub. I actually have an older pair of Infinity SM 125's that I got close to 30 years ago that don't really need one.  

6) Aesthetics are a plus but not a requirement.  I am a function over form guy.  Some of these B&W's, Focals, and others look beautiful compared to the Moabs which are more utilitarian but I am not stress about it. 

7) Size can be whatever.  Again, the Moabs appear to be massive and that is fine but so is something that is much smaller.  The room is roughly 14' by 24' with 9' ceilings.  While it isn't an auditorium, it isn't just a small room either.  

Ok, I think that covers it except to say straight up, I don't tend to care for negativity.  If you have heard something and you don't care for it for X, Y, and Z reasons, great, please say so.  But please don't put something down because you don't like their marketing or you believe that it has to be a $100k system to be worthwhile.  Thank you in advance for your responses. 

ddonicht

I’m a Focal owner and have always loved their sound though it can be polarizing for many with their very detailed tweeters. I’ve never found them to be bright (I think of Paradigm for bright based on my very limited experience with them) and when I purchased my 836v speakers I was able to listen to Focal speakers ranging from the 806v all the way up to the Grande Utopia. My favorite was the Diablo Utopia with a JL Audio Gotham subwoofer but it was in the realm of being a dream for me. I started with an Integra receiver upgraded to a Yaqin MC-30L tube amplifier, and now have a Pathos Classic One MkIII and I have loved my speakers always.

I honestly wouldn’t buy a speaker before at least listening to a similar model from the same brand and then always listening to one that’s lower in the line than the one being purchased.

If you love your speakers you have a solid foundation to build your system around. They make the biggest difference in the final sound in my opinion, so it’s important to enjoy them.

@ddonicht , I think @jjss49 has some good questions for you to think about.

You have a nice healthy budget so you should have some great fun researching and shopping. It’s a great time to be an audiophile or just into hifi because there are so many choices--which is also possibly a source of you being overwhelmed.

I like Music Direct, Audio Advisor, Upscale Audio, and Crutchfield’s no hassle return policies. Each of them stock a good bit of selection too. There are plenty of other dealers that are just as good too.

If you can temporarily swing it, it can be very fun and eye opening to research and get it down to 2 speakers to try out at the same time, knowing you’ll return one. Ideally, you could have a salon full of stuff and then decide, yet that’s pretty impractical. I’m not saying to limit yourself to just 2, but if you are having trouble the best thing to do is listen over a month to something.

Enjoy the journey. Keep us posted!

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My suggestion is to get a pair of monitors from Fritz.  You'll have a very difficult time spending money on new speakers after that.

Then at least start to treat your room. 

Consider offerings from Spatial Audio Labs and Clayton Shaw. They do need a little room to breath, but are excellent value and have a generous trial period. Detail for days without being fatiguing. Older models come up once in a while. I have the older M3s and will never get rid of them.