K-horn won't fit, any other corner speakers recommended for a big room?


I am dealing with two very small corners in a fairly large room that I want to fill with a very open and transparent sound.  I currently have a set of VonSchweikert VR3's in the corners and they sound great on the bottom end, but are lacking the resolve that I am looking for on the top end.  I would like something that is a little less laid back.  As mentioned in the title, I would love to put in a set of Klipschorns but there is a window at each corner that will not allow a K-horn to fit without covering the window.  This is a fairly big room (22 x 30 x9) with three walls of windows and large opening at the back of the room that goes to the kitchen.  Due to WAF, the two corners on the 22' wall are the only locations that are acceptable and yes, my VR3's are about 20' apart.  My listening zone is at about 24-25' away so it works out ok but soundstage and imaging does suffer because of this.  My thoughts are that speakers that are meant to load off the corners of the room and aim towards the center (K-horn) is the correct path for me.  In a perfect world, I would be able to enjoy them at 12' away as well as 24' away.  Currently, my setup actually sounds better at 24'.  Does anyone have suggestions for speakers that are meant to go into a corner or very close to corners?  Ideally, I'd love to get a pair of Maggies because I have always loved them when set up correctly, but I don't know how I could make them work well within my constraints.  One last comment, I still have small kids at home so the wife needs to stay in case that was Option 1.  Anyone ever had this problem to deal with and did you ever solve it?

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BTW, I just looked for pictures, I can't quite tell, but if your bass units are separate or powered you may be able to reduce the power to them separately, by reducing the input to the bass amp or bi-amping and adding a volume control for the bass.

I have a long narrow room, about 15 x 40, with mostly glass along one wall and openings to a hallway an kitchen along the other.  My speakers are about 18 inches from the corners on the narrow front wall.  I replaced my old Ohm Walsh 4s with the 5000 upgrade.  Fantastic.  I have the bass set to medium, and have taken my REL T5 subs out of the system.  Unless I sit in the middle of the living room with the speakers, I don’t think my room will ever be very ideal for pinpoint imaging, so I tried used Ohm Walsh 4s a few years ago.  Haven’t thought of trying anything else since.  They also sound great in the open kitchen, with plenty of bass, at the far end of the room which is essentially the back wall.

Reading the post above, there are 4 “tone controls “ on the 5000’s which enabled me to really get them dialed in and put proper upper midrange in the room for the first time.  It’s hard to imagine a room that would want all the base they are capable of, but my space does have cork floors.

Ohm is a good option. Only because I’ve used, owned or had most the old Klipsch, Altecs, Jensen, WE, JBL and Tannoy speakers, in this house, not other rooms MY rooms. Just because they make mention that they work best in a corner or what ever the manufacture recommend it doesn’t mean they work in your corners or your rooms.

The only problem I’ve had with every horn or semi-horned speaker I’ve ever used. They are tough to get right in the best of rooms. Throwing in all the other weird stuff they DON’T play well with, like anything on a wall that deadens one side and not the other. Most Klipsch speakers like a lively room. They rely on a reflex response. You throw that out of kilter, you’ll measure until the cows come home, it will never image correctly, have a center phantom, or find a good position to listen.

Either your ears aren’t big enough, one (ear) is to small or The sweet spot is in a place you can’t put your head. LOL (between your legs).

You have to be a contortionist to listen to your system..

OHM. It’s mor betta’ (southern yak)

The next problem is going to be able to gain match subs (low sensitivity) with high sensitivity speakers like horns. It never works. Your always fiddling with the gain on the lower one, in this case the sub. Make sure you have a remote on your sub system that will help.. I always matched drivers or had remotes and usually huge passive subs too. 4cf or larger.

Tone control? I don't leave home without it, if you have horns you have to have tone control. PERIOD. It's like letting a baby run around without a dipper. What a mess WITHOUT control.. Get my drift..:-)

Have fun though..:-)

I wouldn't put Logans in corners against the wall, nor any other dipole speaker.

You're on the right track with Khorns, make it work!

Go with newer model Khorns which are fully enclosed and should allow you to pull them off the wall and out of the corner a little. Or, modify an older set.