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The Best Preamp is no Preamp?

So recently I've discovered the possibility of completely removing my preamp from my rig. I've never heard or considered this before, so much audio tradition... But in going directly from DAC to amplifier the sound quality is absolutely incredible, instantly had me grinning. Using music server to Chord M Scaler to Chord Qutest (cut out Marantz SR5015) to go directly to dual Emotiva XPA-DR1 monoblocks, to GR Research's 24 strand speaker wire to Magnepan 1.7i's.  Only difference is running volume on server vs Marantz remote, sound quality is the biggest jump I've ever heard with any gear.

Have you guys had experience cutting out the preamp from your rig? What's your thoughts?

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ghdprentice
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It is like not needing a power conditioner. It can work under the right conditions… but usually the best sound is achieved with one. If you are one of the special cases where you have really compatible and synergistic equipment and do not have analog inputs it is a great situation. Congratulate yourself on doing a good job. Most of the time you get a richer more engaging sound with a good preamp.

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lowrider57
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I've owned a couple of amps which had gain controls so I went direct from my DAC. I noticed a super black background and more clarity. It was an interesting experience. After awhile, music sounded too analytical so I added the preamp.

Most of the time you get a richer more engaging sound with a good preamp.

This is exactly what I've experienced. More engaging, yes.

 

 

 

 

 

invalid
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If you were using the marantz AVR for a preamp I can understand why it would sound better direct. I used a marantz AVR for a preamp and it didn't sound very good, I replaced it with a dedicated preamp for a big improvement.

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oddiofyl
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The preamp is the heart of a great system,     aside from choice of speakers it is the most vital component in the chain 

oldhvymec
5,101 posts
 

I'm using a TD124 a Decware ZP3 and MC240 cables to QSO 808 monitors. So simple. The gain is on the MC240. I was listening to a bunch of Al Greens old LPs yesterday. :-)

I added a C20, either or was heaven, the difference was not just tone control but, a variable loudness, bass contour with bass and treble control. Did it make a difference? BIGGER :-) What a difference a preamp can make.
I can set everything flat and it's as neutral as can be and a pitch black background. Samra C20, dead quiet. Little LP noise between songs.. 

Regards

 

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