Turntable upgrade recommendations: SME vs AMG vs Technics vs other

I’ve owned & enjoyed a Basis 2500 w/ a Basis Vector 4 arm & a ZYX MC cartridge for 20 years. Simple, very solid w/ very well engineered & built in NH. Still works flawlessly & sounds excellent. I think the newest version is the 2800. Seems better in every way. I would highly suggest taking a look. Strangely,  Stereophile never mentions Basis & the Absolute Sound has highly rated many of their models. Advertising propaganda I suspect.  I value long term reliability consistency highly especially when spending my hard earned $. 

Yes CS Port. Thank you!

@dover

After reading about Mike Lavigne’s musical journey, who has at least 3 active turntables, from his experience, it sounds like there’s no best choice at / above this level, but just slightly different, and best to be able to listen to several different high-end turntables, and to appreciate the differences in presentation. Maybe I should just buy one, listen and enjoy, with the understanding that there will always be slightly different, better in some respects, and maybe not as good in other respects. . .

The CS Port brings up another interesting split in the analog community: linear vs. tangential tracking for tonearms. I understand that LP’s are cut tangentially. What does linear tracking bring to the table, realistically and philosophically speaking?

@drbond 

You are right. Most experiences of audio components are within the context of the system in which they are heard. Even reviewers often have a narrow window.

And of course opinions are always subject to ones own preferences.

Each of these turntables should be capable of excellent performance. 

Choice of tonearm and in particular cartridge should enable any of these turntables to deliver what you want, in other words as long as you buy the best TT you can, you should be able to then tailor the overall presentation through arm/cartridge choice.

Given the gear you have, and the fact that you enjoy different presentations of amplifiers for example, I would recommend you look at a turntable that is capable of 2 arms, even if you start with one. This will future proof your purchase.

Even if you start with one, once you have a handle of the outcome you can then tailor future cartridge purchases to your system and/or add another arm to play with different cartridges. If you purchased any of the TT's I've mentioned, with a top arm, even a modest price cartridge should give you outstanding results. Starting with a couple of cheaper cartridges would give you a feel for what you like - and are always handy for backup in case of accidents.

With regard to tangential trackers, I have owned an Eminent Technology ET2 linear tracker modified for around 30 years, in addition to many other arms such a Dynavector, FR64S, Kuzma  etc.

By eliminating tracking angle error and distortion, properly implemented tangential trackers give you the most accurate soundstage presentation, for example if I listen to a church choral recording, with the ET2 I can hear clearly into the recording environment, soundstage, instrument location, reverberation more than with any conventional pivoted arm. I use to use the ET2 with the original Martin Logan CLS electrostatics - and to this day even my current system cannot match that combination for presenting a phenomenal window into the recording venue.

Some folk argue that linear trackers have too high a mass for the cartridge - but that is not necessarily true - depending on the linear tracking design. Careful matching of cartridge and arm and decent set up are always important.

The CSPort has a linear tracking option and I believe can also run a conventional arm as well - ie 2 arms.

I currently enjoy multiple turntables in my system and run both linear and conventional arms. Arm/cartridge and cartridge/phono matching is the key and a decent phono stage.

By the way interested to know how the Ypsilons are going - how do they compare to the Lamm combo ?

@drbond - no matter how much you spend on any component, there is ALWAYS something better.

Linear tracking arms have one main advantage - there is no anti skating force required since there is no centripetal force pushing the arm away from the center of the record to counteract while the platter is spinning. I had a table a while back that had that which did not sound as good as a $500 (20+ years ago) table I bought to replace it when it broke. It was a Phase Linear 8000 which probably wasn’t set up optimally. I’ve learned a lot since then.

IMHO they add complication in set up and depending on the table may have some type of additional motor or mechanism to move the arm which can add noise. That being said, an audiophile friend got one last year and he loves it. Part of that affection though is the cool factor. Personally, I like low mass arms and simplicity in all parts of my system.