I need help regarding tube phono preamplifiers


To the Audiogon community. I am currently considering one of three possible all tube phono preamps to incorporate in my two channel system. The three phono stages are 1.Aesthetix Rhea phono preamp 2.Zesto Andros Deluxe II phono stage and 3. Vac Renaissance phono preamp. I will incorporate the stand alone phono preamp into my McIntosh C48 preamp and utilize a Clearaudio Performance DC turntable with a Clearaudio Universal tonearm and Kiseki Purple Heart phono cartridge. If anyone has experience to help me compare the differences between these phono stages I would greatly appreciate the input. Thanks.

andyhifiman

I haven’t heard these but personally wouldn’t use tubes in a phono pre-amp as a pre-requisite as the risk of extra noise is considerable. Instead, use tubes in your main pre-amp and roll those as you like. This will keep system noice quiter and provide consistency across phono and DAC in the main system.

I left my tube phone pre--amp (Project DS Tube - just above entry level) for the Gold Note PH-10 with PS. I couldn’t be happier with this pre-amp - versatile mico controller settings for the cartridges and the killer feature of matching equalization to the record manufacturer. I didn’t really consider how much this equalization would matter - it is genuinely a huge difference between RIAA, Columbia, and DECCA.

I purchased the Rhea signature after purchasing a demo turntable, tonearm, cartridge.  The phono stage in my preamp, though excellent was t enough for the .25 mv lomc t purchased the aesthetix for the extra gain, and in the open showroom sounded excellent.   I’m my listening room the tube rush over 54 db gain was clearly evident.  I found a private party that had nos Hammond organ 12au tubes and lived happily with them for years. Actually bought a second set for future.    The extra tubes were an unfortunate loss over two moves and the replacements were sold out.  I sold the unit, and enjoy the phono stage in my integrated.    
Elevating the voltage and riaa correction can be well designed with Evan an ic. 

High quality tubed phono stages are not remotely noisy and are exceptionally musical. I have used tubed phono stages (Audio Research) for the last thirty years. I would listen to a solid state contender, but my experience has show that only good quality tubed preamps and phono stages rise above the competition. 
 

The more high quality tubed equipment I have incorporated in my system the more realistic, compelling my system has sounded, without a loss of detail. You can see a couple of my system under my UserID. I have owned and auditioned hundreds of pieces over the last fifty years.

I haven’t heard these but personally wouldn’t use tubes in a phono pre-amp as a pre-requisite as the risk of extra noise is considerable. Instead, use tubes in your main pre-amp and roll those as you like. This will keep system noice quiter and provide consistency across phono and DAC in the main system.

I left my tube phone pre--amp (Project DS Tube - just above entry level)

You need to venture beyond entry level before making such pronouncements.  My Herron VTPH-2A tubed phono stage is dead quiet.

I have struggled with noisy phono preamps when it comes to MC carts.

I recently purchased a Hagerman Trumpet MC. It is outstanding for a little bit over $1000 ($1090 I think).

Can’t afford or find a Heron VTPH-2A? The Hagerman, I’m hearing, can more than hang with this great phono preamp.

Main drawback is that it isn’t so flexible with MM but if you’re committed to MC carts, give this a try. Very quiet, organic and beautiful sounding no negative feedback design.