Where is millercarbon, interested in his take on this subject.
The problem with streaming
As I sit here listening to America Includes: "A Horse With No Name", I realized the problem with streaming. Who knows what source material you're getting with streaming? The album I'm listening to is a Warners Brothers green label. Sonics are absolutely incredible! The band sounds like they're in the room!
Navigating the pressings to find the best one can be challenging but that's part of the fun of the hobby. I doubt the same care is taken when generating streaming recordings. You're stuck with what they use, thus missing the incredible texture of the best recordings.
Of course, great care must be taken to set up the turntable and match all components downstream. I find the effort to be well worth it! There's just no substitute for great analog!
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MC is on...'hiatus'......(but not far away, I suspect...) ;) Streaming, streamcasting, web noodling, instant audio.... I run into this sort of .....and use it for my own version of 'Muzak'....
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In thinking more about perception of streaming being for lazy people I can see how that thought may occur.
For some playing vinyl is a ritual. Handling vinyl with care, placing it on cleaning machine, handling with care again to place on tt, carefully dropping arm onto record, adjusting VTA, VTF, cleaning cartridge. This all repeated over and over ad infinitum is ritual, just as so many of our rather reflexive or automatonic actions. This may be perceived as one's comfort zone and/or we can apply meaning to it. Rituals evoke many kinds of emotions, playing vinyl can be a precious activity when we apply meaning and invest emotions into it.
I also understand how the physical aspects of vinyl evoke various emotions. Values above and beyond the music contained on the grooves become meaningful. The art work on the cover, the long held possession of a physical object may be both inherently valuable in a monetary and memory sense. I still have some vinyl purchased well over thirty years ago, they certainly have subjective value way beyond their monetary value for me.
For others all the rituals stated above is simply work, little or no value placed upon it, and the value of the vinyl physical object is only monetary. I can understand how the vinyl aficionado could feel disdain for one who so undervalues vinyl and the ritual of playing vinyl.
But then, the vinyl aficianado may misunderstand the streaming enthusiast. They see we have very little cost in order to play our music, the perception being how can anything worthwhile cost so little. This seems rather like the Christian work ethic principle to my mind. I ask myself does pleasure require pain, work, suffering, I think not. I believe one can very much value music with very little cost, I know I do!
Perhaps I'm unique in that I live in both these worlds, playing vinyl and steaming are both unique listening activities I enjoy. I don't need them to be in conflict, got enough of that in this world!
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Hi Everyone, Interesting conversation. I was also an analog guy until I actually set up digital properly. First, I want to say that I do import and distribute certain digital products and I'm not touting those products in this conversation but rather explaining that digital needs an incredible amount of work and time to get the harmonics that a great analog set up produces. In my opinion moving from Roon to Stylus music player with my Pink Faun server/streamer and adding my Aries Cerat DAC was the first step to understanding the true potential of a great digital set up. In order to set up for Stylus we had to convert all my .w64 files to WAVE lossless format. But there are a lot of small details, just like owning a great analog set up, that you need to perform before you can reach the full potential of digital. In term of streaming, Tidal is also MUCH better when played thru the Stylus player on the Pink Faun. Anyone that has not professionally set up a digital front end properly cannot understand how analog sounding digital can really sound. It's like the person that tells you hypothetically how a 911 Porsche drives without ever driving one. You need to drive the car to fully understand the true potential of that car. My suggestion is to test as many digital products as possible and A/B test products against each other when possible. We have tested over 100 different digital front ends on 6 very different systems and the end results were exactly the same in every system. The final thing I can say is that digital takes a lot of effort and time to get it to sound analog but once you do get it correct then you have access to a lot more music. This then allows you to explore different artist that you would never have heard before and for me just hearing some of the performances by these different artists has changed my perception and enjoyment of music. This is just my opinion so please analog guys until you have tried to set up digital at this level, let's not poo, poo what I am saying.
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