Maggie 1.7i's lack detail. Ideas?


Hi,
In about 1979 I had a roommate who had a pair of Magnapan's, an amp, pre-amp (at least one of which was NAD, and a fairly high quality turntable.  I was shocked and amazed about the feeling the singers were present in the room with me.   The accuracy and detail of the sound.

Fast forward 40 years and I purchase a barely used 1.7is.   I have a new Marantz NR1200.  A 15 yo BK EX-440 Sonata (350WPC @ 4 ohms), and optical bit stream out Sony DVD player.  I use optical cable between the DVD player and NR1200.   I have fairly high quality cables between the pre-out of the NR1200 and the EX-440.  I have somewhat high gauge copper stranded cable, about 6', between the EX-440 and the speakers.

The sound is not bad but very much lacking the detail and immediacy I remember in the highs and mid-range.  A great disappointment. My question is what the most likely culprit?

Some possibilities:
1. My hearing has declined.
2. I've a romanticized memory of the sound quality.
3. What I was hearing was the mushrooms.
4. The speakers my roommate had were a bit wider.  Maybe more like the 3.7s.  Maybe 40 year old 3.7s are just that much better than current 1.7is.
5. Stranded wire cables.
6. Turntable that much better than CD.
7. ????
 

jros

+1secretguy

For what it’s worth:

I have my 1.7s out 42" from front wall, 5’ between speakers (6’3" center to center) tweeters to the outside, very slight toe in and listening position approx. 9’ from speakers. The entire front wall, behind the speakers, is well dampened with acoustic drapes. Powering with a 35+ year Audible Illusions pre-amp (still dead silent and performing well) and a 350W @4ohm ADCOM power amp. and one ADS sub. Both with my LPs and CDs they sound incredible. I’ve tried the beryllium and the diamond tweeter speakers - I’ll stick with the Maggies thanks....

As others have said - a good pre amp, enough power, a good front end and detail to set up and your little Maggies will sound great.........Jim

 

 

 

I’d keep extolling the virtues but I have to head to the ear doctor for an upgrade in my hearing aids. What honey? That’s tomorrow? I can’t hear you? What?

If you find those Maggies are as detailed as your Focals then you likely need a hearing checkup indeed. That or your sources/amplification are not that revealing. Maybe a combination of both? 

 

here you go, send you components to me for upgrades.  Better than any cable, component, room treatment you can find.

you likely need a hearing checkup indeed. That or your sources/amplification are not that revealing.

Or perhaps I just need to chill out when I see something egregious like this comment yet meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

You do realize this is effectively an ad hominem attack rather than addressing the point directly?  When an opinionated audiophile has no other arguments to make, they call the other person deaf or insult their gear.  

To be clear, my Maggies are true ribbon models. Perhaps the QR versions are less detailed, I would not know.  But I would not generalize on all Magnepans regarding this issue.

Specifically regarding the Focals, I would not call it more detail.  I would call it more forward detail.  I think it's a matter of taste which is preferable.  

 

 

 

I have a pair.  The crossovers in them are made of cheap low quality parts.  I had my crossovers rebuilt with high quality identical spec parts and they improved dramatically.  Detail was quite good post mod.