Speaker positioning: why do audiophiles neglect this so much?

So I guess since not all of us can have the perfect listening situation then we shouldn’t upgrade our system at all?  
 

Obviously making changes to equipment makes a difference in sound, so why not do it?  Because it would sound even better in a non functional living environment?

So really none of what you are judging others for makes much sense.
 

Have you ever upgraded a car stereo or bought a car with a higher end unit?  What a waste I guess since it’s not a perfect listening environment. Have an expensive coffee maker yet use Starbucks beans?  I mean we could go on and on.  

Dont make a sophism with my observations...

Dont put words in my mouth...

I never said that changing some piece of gear will not make a difference...ALL change make a difference, even cables did...

I never said that people with a living room which is not under perfect acoustic control MUST never upgrade...They can, but acoustic improvement is BETTER before upgrading, because it is better to listen to the real potential of what you want to change before changing it....

I SAID that MOST upgrades will never replace the HUGE improvement when acoustic is rightfully done...For sure my low cost Sansui will never rival the high end design of a costlier amplifier ONLY  because my room is acoustically under control...did i ever say that?

But before upgrading this Sansui  amplifier it is better for me  to listen to it in optimal acoustic condition... I did.... This is the reason why now i am satisfied with it even if i know that a Berning Zotl amplifier for example will be better... But i am satisfied with my ratio S.Q. / price cost which is over the roof thanks to acoustic method...I listen music no more distracted or disturbed by a "bad" sound...Nothing is perfect but it is optimal now for this system/room of mine... It is then enough...

I will not go from a 500 bucks system to a 15,000 bucks upgrade, which will be the real cost of a real upgrade... I know the cost  because i listen to the working peak potential of my actual system and i can assess his limitations , thanks to acoustic...

I advise people here AFTER my experience and experiments thats all... I dont judge people 😁😊

By the way upgrading is a risky  move, acoustic is a science....

So I guess since not all of us can have the perfect listening situation then we shouldn’t upgrade our system at all?

Obviously making changes to equipment makes a difference in sound, so why not do it? Because it would sound even better in a non functional living environment?

So really none of what you are judging others for makes much sense.

I’ve had several different nice systems over the past 45 years & all I can surmise about speaker positioning in reference to listening position is that other than the basic obvious things we all mostly know, there are no hard & fast rules. Every room   & every system in a particular room can be different.  I heard some VERY pricey systems recently at the Capitol Audio Fest that truly excellent & some that sounded terrible & unlistenable to me in rooms large & small. These are set up by “experts” w/ access to almost anything they need to help for better sound, lots of prior show experience &have a vested interest in making their equipment sound as good as possible. So, it’s not that easy or straightforward & requires a lot of tweeting & experimentation.

Speaker placement, listener position, and room acoustics ... they might have the highest impact, but they are the least 'sexy'.

Two sets of shiny speaker pods look much flashier than a 4 inch translation and a 3 degree toe in.