Madman! Digital vs Vinyl


Anyone out there who has a great vinyl setup and a great digital setup, try this!

Bring up Elton John’s Tumbleweed Connection Deluxe Edition on Qubuz for digital which includes Madman Across the Water and play it.

 

Then pull out your vinyl of Madman Across the Water and play it.  
 

Please tell me which sounds better on your system and what you have for TT, cartridge and phono preamp.

 

 I won’t bias the results by telling you what I think.

 

 Thanks 

dougthebiker

Vinyl had better centre voicing and wider separation of interments.

Digital stream was bolder, better clarity yet a little flatter.

Main

Parasound New classic pre + Parasound Zone Master 2350 (600 watt class D)

PSB Image 2B (upgrades tweeters) and /or Polk Audio LSi15 + Velodyne sub 

Digital

Audio Lab 6000N,  All audioquest cables, Tidal stream

Vinyl

Sony PS-X50, Rega Ania MC LO, iFi phono2

(and my preference is.......           )

 

@ghdprentice - it’s a question of availability. Black Ice on ECM (Wolfert Brederode) is only available on redbook CD, no vinyl, though I rely on vinyl for a lot of obscure records that were never reissued legitimately, let alone on digital formats. Thus, I do digital of necessity, though if someone were starting out today, I would not recommend vinyl unless they have deep pockets; not just to get what the format is truly capable of, but the cost of some of these records is absolutely prohibitive.

To me, the key is whatever gives you more access to high quality music. The compositions, performances and recordings themselves can be scrutinized on each level. But the listener may choose "blow me away" as a show piece rather than something more off the beaten path. It’s a pretty personal choice. Not everything is digitized, let alone at high quality. Ironically, the best performance of The Cream remains a "bootleg."

I listen to obscure jazz that is borderline cacophony and for the most part obscure. That stuff can be found sometimes on digital (in CD, not necessarily on streaming facilities) but it is largely needle drops (some of the early CD reissues were pulled from tape; as to streaming I have no idea- my experience, limited to Qobuz, was that it was shallow in catalog depth). The original discs, made during the ’70s, are not the best representation of the vinyl art, but they actually sound good if you get a clean copy, though this stuff has gotten tres cher in the last couple years.

@2dougthebiker - to answer your question, with €7k invested in your analogue front end, it is definitely worth investing in a quality phono stage - pricewise/quality, up to something like the Parasound JC3+, I would say.

But will €10k of analogue gear trounce €10k of digital playback -  no.

As regards comparisons of specific recording on vinyl and digital, there are massive variations at both ends.  A friend of mine used to blind tests using me a the subject with him playing various copies of LPs from different mastering houses and pressing plants, and sometimes albums from the same pressing plants where the variable was the age of the stamper. There were significant differences in sound quality. Then throw in the differences in mastering /  A to D transfers of digital files for CD and streaming and the number of possible permutations are enormous.

However, I will try your comparison as soon as I get my digital streamer back up and running. It's down while I install a hardwired connection to it.

 

 

 

I appreciate everyone’s thoughts on this.  This leads to a related question.  Given that the age of the vinyl stamper impacts the SQ of a given copy of an LP significantly, wouldn’t it be true that if you stick with a single digital source, e.g., Qobuz through Roon, you’ll on average get better SQ than the LP copies you happen to have in your collection?