Why do I need power management if I have a great power cord?


Isn't it kind of unnecessary to additionally add a power conditioner if I have an expensive audio file grade Power cord connected to a component?

So you buy a Power conditioner from a hi-fi store and they say oh, you need a really good power cord to go with that and then another one to go from conditioner to the component. Do you need it all and why? Seems the last couple of feet before the component should be more than enough.

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@hickamore Agreed. Mileage varies, but the thing about calling it all BS is that the denier gets the relief of emotional closure. Not denying them that pleasure; the problem emerges when their closure is proffered as empirical proof for a more general claim. That's where they go wrong, though others seeking closure like to pile on to support their faulty reasoning.

noske, I asked of deniers, "Do you think that these cords and conditioners have just been fooling everyone for decades?" For the record, your answer is "yes."

I’ll agree we should remove the word "stupid" and let the person who thinks *everyone* has been fooled *for decades* use their own adjective to characterize so many people buying useless gear -- or just forego attaching any adjectives at all. This is a hobby. Let people have their audio kabuki!

There is nothing careless about that reasoning. Thinking so is reasoning carelessly.

Just make sure you have large gauge cords for your amp. Because after dozens, and likely hundreds, of feet of 14 gauge romex, that last 3 feet of 10 ga copper will make all the difference.

And now that I've solved the power issue herein, thank you,  what do I do about nonstop landscaper noise now that spring is here?

Ever since they invented the leaf blower things have never been the same.  Carrying a jet engine on your back and walking around the neighborhood is impacting Quality of life substantially.  It's like a frog in gradually heating water we never really recognized this problem as it grew and now it's too late. Somehow it's very important to remove every last leaf on the lawn and be absolutely neurotic about edging.  Are brooms still being sold? 

We no longer can see most of the stars at night and now we can't enjoy peacefulness during the day.

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Power cords obey Ohm’s Law. Voltage drops across them can cause a very measurable loss of power in an amplifier. In that manner it can affect distortion and output impedance too.

The voltage drop is easy to measure with a regular digital voltmeter. So this isn’t anything mysterious.

A good power conditioner is helpful too. A glorified power strip that gets called a ’power conditioner’ is not. The latter forces all the equipment to obtain its power through the same power cord, FWIW.

A proper power conditioner will not limit current, it will be able to guarantee the AC sine wave distortion (you’ll see that in its specs) and should be able to regulate the AC line voltage. One of the more pesky AC line aberrations is the 5th harmonic, which can cause power transformers to become noisy, power rectifiers to become noisy and can affect synchronous motors found in turntables and tape machines.

There are very few power conditioners offered to high end audio that can do everything I’ve mentioned here.

That means that most people on this thread, in particular those that think power conditioners don’t make a difference, simply haven’t heard what a proper conditioner can actually do. Its not as if they are wrong; most of what they have heard simply doesn't work!

That is why there is controversy on this topic.

I know of only two power conditioners that seem to work. One is made by PSAudio. The other was made by a company called Elgar, who got out of the power conditioning market a long time ago, so if you find one of their conditioners (they show up on ebay) its likely it will have to be refurbished.

A proper power conditioner has to have active components- if passive (for example a choke or transformer is all that’s involved) it won’t work. To give you an idea of why, let’s take the Elgar as an example. It has a low distortion 60Hz oscillator that is synchronized to the incoming AC power. The AC power goes through an isolation transformer that also has windings to run the conditioner’s internal power supplies. Feedback is taken from the output and compared to the low distortion oscillator; this correction voltage is applied to the isolation transformer as correction (through a power amplifier built in); in addition it also is used to buck the output voltage so that voltage is thus regulated without current limiting.

That’s a bit of sophistication! If you don’t have that in your power conditioner, it can’t filter out the 5th harmonic, it won’t be able to correct line voltage, it won’t be able to provide a clean AC waveform to your stereo. Put another way, +90% of all ’high end audio’ ’conditioners’ are so much junk.

If y’all want to argue about this topic, at least have the facts available!