Intergrated Amp suggestions for B&W 805d4


Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum and to any music forum for that matter.  I have been reading a lot of threads here that I have been informative and helpful.

I am looking to match an intergrated amp with the new 805s, and would very much appreciate any suggestions or recommendations.

I have listened with the Naim Atom and Nova and personally, whilst  I liked the detail, I found it too forward and fatiguing.  With the Hegel 390, I found the bass rounder but top end more forward. With the Musical Fidelity M5si, I much preferred this sound as it was rounder and softer yet detailed but less detailed than the Naim.  (Apologies if I use the wrong audiophile terminology, I am unfamiliar with these terms but I am only using what I feel best fits with my discription of sound)

A few people have recommended the MA252 and MA 352 from McIntosh as they advised that this will soften the diamond tweeter and also bring warmth and extension to the bass.  Others have recommended tube amps like Prima Luna.

i have never owned or had any experience with tube amps.

Any suggestions, info or advice  for a good amp to match my speakers?

Thank you in advance.

 

ezikl

In no particular order except for the CODA & Gryphon...

CODA CSIB V1 or Gryphon Diablo 120

BAT VK-3500

AVM 6.2

Michi X3

Copland CSA150

Pass Labs 250

Hi Everyone, 

Thank you for your responses and recommendations.  Budget is around that of the Naim Nova which is around $7500 USD, but prices in Australia are very different.

Seems like there are quite a few recommendations for hybrid amps.  I'm open to hybrid or tube amps, but I have no knowledge or experience with them, especially current and power etc.  

The Circle Labs look awesome, but unfortunately not available in Aus.  Have heard the SImaudio (pre and power separates) with Dynaudio Heritage Specials, was an amazing experience, then straight after, the MA12000 with Sonus Faber floorstanders (flagship line with 2 bass drivers) not sure of the name - thought I died, hugged a fluffy teddy bear and gone to heaven........Hope this gives an idea about the sound i like haha.

Havent heard the Luxmans but is on my list, although some people said it may not be a good pair.

MF with AudioQuest cables!  That is exactly the dealer's recommendation when I told him I preferred MF over Naim!  Funny that!

Cant demo a Parasound or VT or Kinki - damn shame.

Yes, I fell in love with the detail of the 805 but unfortunately didnt realise about the fatigue until later.  No buyers remorse, I still remember how I FELT when I listened to the 805 for the 1st time. (not heard - people forget this, but will always remember how they felt the time they heard something special - like the Mac and Sonus above but sadly outside my budget for now)   Now I need to make it work so I can enjoy my speakers for hours and days.......

Thanks for the input everyone, keep it coming !  

I own 804D3,

Tried Pathos Logos (hybrid tubes), Shangling (full tubes) and Accuphase E460. But now playing with Bryston (first 4b and now 14b sst) and Cardas golden cross speakercable. For me the Nryston brought true realism to my system which i admire and and enjoy everyday. Clearly the 804 needed more robust power.

Another aspect that brought magic and coherence and balance to my set up was much more significant toe in of the speakers than in my normal set up in the 40 years before..... i would also recommend you give it a try.

Enjoy

Let me put on my shield first.  I always thought the MAC stuff sounded kind of muffled.  Could be other things, but that is what I consistently hear.  That's just me

If I recall, I have seen Classe paired with B&W.  I have Pass but not sure how it would sound with B&W.  They would be slightly less warmer than the Luxman.  Recommendations are tougher since you live in a far away land. 

An amp with some Class A would be good. I don't think Class D would give you what you want.  Might work if you had a tube preamp or we are back to the hybrid brands.  Good luck!

One thing to consider about Musical Fidelity is that for whatever reason they do not hold their value well if buying new. Not sure why, maybe change models too often? I bought a a1008 for $1400 and this was a 6k integrated in 2009ish. It sounds very very good. If this represents the MF sound overall I would describe it as smooth and powerfully with a nice meaty mid range.