Thermal Distortion your loudspeaker most likely suffers from it. But do you care?


 Thermal Distortion is much more serious than just a maximum power handling limitation or side effect.TD is overlooked by most manufacturers as there is no easy (low cost) solution and TD is audible and measurable most of the time at most power levels. TD is caused by the conductive metal (aluminum, copper, or silver) voice coil getting hotter when you pass electrical energy through it. The more power you pass through it the hotter the metal gets. The hotter the metal gets the more the electrical resistance increase. The efficiency goes down and you need to ram in more and more power for smaller and smaller increases in SPL. It can be the reason you get fatigued while listening. If you are running massive power you are creating more TD in your transducers. But do you care? And is it a reason some prefer horn-loaded designs or SET-powered systems since they have the least problems with TD? 

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Link that works LS_Heat_Dissipation-Thermal_Compression

It also affects the XO frequency. See ieLogical the fly...

The argument for high efficiency is specious as they have light coils with thin wire, which heats faster with less current. And lighter diaphragms and weaker surrounds which give rise to other issues. And lousy bass from ported boxes...

As is the cable nonsense. The effect is so low as to be next to immeasurable.

Planars suffer almost not at all. Ditto 'stats.

The crossover issue is solved by using active XO, DSP and an amplifier per driver instead of stone age copper coils and foil and goo. Professional audio has been doing this for nearly 100 years!

The only time I had a heat problem is when my Carver amp went bonkers and before I could turn it off it had melted the varnish on the voice coil of the 2235H in my JBL B380 sub-woofer. 😊

@johnk --

Thanks for starting this thread. 

"But do you care?"

Most certainly, but not for the reasons outlined by quite a few here about avoiding one's speakers going up in smoke. What's interesting to me is how thermal compression/-distortion can impact the sound at a much earlier juncture than speaker failure or overheating per se: with "thermal modulation," eloquently put into words by poster @audiokinesis ..

"During the recent "great recession", I spent most of my time over on the prosound side of things. Imo, there's a lot of validity to Mtrot's observation: "I'm beginning to think the ability of speakers to achieve that sense of dynamic "liveness" may be as or more important to a sense of realism than frequency response accuracy."

On the acoustics side, I take the word to mean unrestrained dynamic transients. Compression can come from amplifier clipping or loudspeaker thermal or mechanical limitations. I believe that the most common culprit in loudspeakers is "thermal modulation", a quick-onset compression that results from the near-instantaneous heating of the voice coil from a high-power transient.

On the psychoacoustics side, "slam" registers when a limbic system response ("fight or flight" startle) is triggered. It is a function of transient dynamics and raw SPL. If there's not much dynamic contrast, it doesn't come across as "slam". If there's good dynamic contrast but the sound pressure level is still soft, it doesn't come across as "slam".

From a loudspeaker design perspective, the solutions include high efficiency and/or large diameter (or multiple) voice coils. If a loudspeaker system is being pushed close to its RMS thermal rating on peaks, your peaks are softened and so is the emotion conveyed. If a loudspeaker system is just loafing along at fairly high SPL, it will deliver plenty of slam. That's why 5 watts into a 98 dB efficient speaker almost always sounds so much more lively than 200 watts into an 82 dB efficient speaker, even though "on paper" both are 105 dB capable.

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https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/quot-slam-quot-what-is-it-is-it-really-accurate

The proof is in the eating of the pudding, as they say. 

@ditusa --

Thanks for provided article on the subject (and to @ieales for the link). 

"It is clear, however, that even the best transducers will power compress and yield less than desirable performance at the limits of their power capacity. It therefore makes the most sense to operate drivers well below maximum power to achieve desirable performance. The ideal operating level will track with power handling, and drivers with high power ratings and good shortterm capability (high T and low Rg) will be the best choice."

Indeed, "well below maximum power" says it clearly; it's about maintaining ample headroom, even at the highest SPL's to achieve the best sonic outcome, and so this is really not about the risk of frying one's speakers (though it may pertain more readily to pro installations) as much as it is sonic implications. 

Heat also affects passive cross-overs and in effect the sound from such passive speakers, which has been pointed to above, consequences that are happily avoided with active configurations.