Proac response 2.5 or Dynaudio Special 25


Currently own the Proac's, and have been happy. But I did audition the Special 25 and was quite intrigued. Loved the sound but just didn't get my feet tapping.

Am I missing something?
yashu
I'm not using Simaudio.
My system is Jeff Rowland Concentra integrated, with Arcam FMJ cd23, with the Proac response 2.5.

So much I like about Dynaudio sp25 but they just don't draw me in like Proac. Perhaps I should forget about upgrading the speakers and just continue to enjoy what I have. Just have had the bug for new speakers.

Should the Dynaudio be as engaging? And what about Dynaudio c1?
Ejlif My first experience with Dynaudio was at my dealer who had Sim Audio stack as his premium set up. I brought my 20 + year old Mission 782's to compare. It was the comparison that made me fall in love with the Dyn's. Like I said (or maybe didn't) The Sim was great with control but so detailed I couldn't live with that for the long term. Same thing when I heard Classe Omega mono blocks driving B&W 802d's. Again great control and detail but what I found was I was listening to individual instruments and vocals saying WOW. But for me I just couldn't hear the music as a whole because of all the individual sounds being so detailed.

That being said that was the 'sound' I 'thought' I wanted when I first started my audio journey. After listening to a modest Naim 5i I found myself listening to the music and noticed my toes a tappin. That was the day I decided I didn't care for all the detail. I wasn't until I listened to the Octave V70se did I hear the music with control.

Well that's my story as to why detail isn't my cup of tea
Should the Dynaudio be as engaging? And what about Dynaudio c1?
Well I'm biased because I do have the C1 Signatures because to me and my taste the C1's are much more engaging. If you have the opportunity give the C1's a listen and decide from there.
I have the Proac Response 2.5 and I recommend trying them with an EL-34 based tube amp. I think you may be even happier with your current speakers.
I believe you would be happier with your 2.5's. I had them, as well and can give you some advice on how to get more out of them. Your Rowland is a good match for the speaker, but not the best. Its a very unusual piece. I have a Rowland 112 which I think is very similar, or even the same amp that is in your integrated. The Rowland is very detailed but also, at the same time, very forgiving. You really don't need an amp like that for your speakers. Its a good amp to use if you need to "fix" a harsh or bright speaker. Your Proac's do have a very musically forward, lively sound. Your amp is holding back a lot of that. Your Arcam is also a very good piece. I had the 33 but imagine that there isn't too big a difference between them, as well. It has a very "polite" or smooth sound but not a lot of dynamic contrast. You could say that the Arcam, generally speaking, aims for a similar sound as the Rowland; but not taking it that far.

If it were my choice, I would upgrade your amp first. Tube or solid state will work fine. You just need to pick the correct amp regardless. Heres a list of tube amps I used that will make a huge difference in sound quality: VAC 30-30 Mk III, Quicksilver V4 Monos, Audio Reasearch VT 100 (1, 2 or 3 - all good). For solid state: Ayre V5, Bat 220, Pass 0's and CJ 2250. I'm sure there are some other good choices as I haven't herd everything out there.

In my opinion the best tube were the V4's followed very closely by the VAC. For solid state, the Ayre would be my first choice. Any of the amps I list, though, I think will be a much better match for your speaker than the Rowland. Your system will immediately come alive with any one of them. For the rest of your system, I say keep the Arcam, for now and get a simple passive preamp so you can use it. From there on, I would listen to the system for a while and get very familiar with it. How you deal with you preamp in the future will be very important and it would be best not rush into it quickly. It will make just as big a difference at the amp.

Hope this info helps. If I'm not clear on something, just post and I will try to give a better answer.