How do I get the best soundstage?


I have a better than decent digital system. I.e. Pass integrated amp, Innuos streamer and USB reclocker, Ayre DAC with Less Loss power cable and firewall, Volti speakers. I’m my dedicated listening room the digital system is sonically superb to my ear - Except that the soundstage is ok but not the best. So, maybe I missed the boat on that. I have a vintage Technics table and Phono box S2 (basic start for vinyl). I’m now ready to move up to a better TT and phono preamp. I already have a used TT, a VPI Classic, coming. So, I’m looking for advice on how to get an exceptional soundstage. Should I be looking at spending more on the phono preamp or does the cartridge make more of a difference in soundstage. Also, should I be questioning the speakers for soundstage quality?. I’m looking to spend no more that 3500 on a used preamp. The VPI table has a low output mc Transfiguration Axia cartridge. Thanks in advance for any ideas you can share!

hysteve

@hysteve , getting a system (room included) to image correctly is very difficult given the equipment most people have. Most of the electronics, cartridges and even speakers are capable of doing this at a reasonable even surprising level but the system needs to be calibrated to the room it is in and any other errors corrected. 

For a proper stereo image symmetry is the most important factor. The performance of both channels (room included) needs to be identical in phase and frequency response. Early reflections have to be absorbed or speakers need to be directional to prevent them entirely. It is not important that the frequency response overall be flat but if the treble is up 3 dB in one speaker it has to be 3 dB up in he other. The channels need to be matched as closely as possible to prevent smearing the image to one side or the other certainly within 1 dB 100Hz to 12 kHz.  Digital signal processing is the only way to achieve this. You can get within 5 dB with room treatment if you know what you are doing. To know what you are doing you need a measurement microphone. Digital room correction preamplifiers will do it for you. The Anthem STR is in your price range. DEQX is releasing new units in about three months. They look great but the prices are not yet available. Trinnov currently makes the best unit but it is $11,000. 

Some people will never experience a system with SOTA imaging because they are digital phobic. But, you seem to be fine with it. The only thing I would change in your system other than getting a Digital Room Control preamp is, get rid of the unipivot tonearm on the VPI. It is a terrible arm. Get an arm with proper bearings. VPI makes one now that is an easy exchange. 

Imagine if clubs and concert halls and all the other assorted auditoria in which music is performed were subject to the electronic constraints that Mijostyn prefers to apply in his home system.  Would it add to enjoyment of the music?  Would we even like it?  I am not posing this question to criticize Mijo; it's just food for thought.

Soundstage optimization is not easy.  It can be hard identifying the weakest link in the chain that is compromising spacial clues.  For most situations, the most likely culprit is the speaker/room interaction.  You want to really kill early reflections, that is, those with a delay of less than about 12 millisectonds.  If you don't set up and treat your room/speaker/listening position in such a way as to reduce those early reflections to about -20 dB relative to the direct from speaker sound, no other change in equipment is going to fix the problem.  Download Room Equalization Wizard (free software) and learn how to use it.  The impulse graph will be your main tool on optimizing spacial clues.  

REW is a powerful tool that no audiophile should be without.  I once was blind, but now I see.  REW is that good.

I would rely upon your digital setup with music or a test CD for speaker placement. I like a laser pointed at a target at the listening position to achieve symmetric toe-in. The distance between the speakers - obviously including symmetry to the listening position axis - is also a big deal, ime. I do not know if your speakers are sensitive to rake, but some are. That said everything in the audio chain can change the perception of soundstage.