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problems with 24 bit cd players

i am searching for a cd player--preferably one with tubes.

i have auditioned a number of them and something is wrong. i perceive a dip in the 100 to 200hz region and a slight peak in the upper mids/lower treble region.

is it possible that one can buy a current production player which is 20 bit and no up sampling ?

i haven't found any, nor am i looking for a dac, although i am aware that there exists non-upsampling dacs.
mrtennis
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mrtennis OP
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hi tvad:

i prefer not to purchase a separate dac and transport.

are the non over sampling dacs tube based and 20 bit ? i already listened to an ack! dac and scott nixon tube dac. i was not impressed with either.

i suppose if i heard a dac/transport combination that was sufficiently pleasantly euphonic i might reconsider my aversion to a dac.
beheme
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YBA claimed for a long time that 24-bit was detrimental to musicality and their CDP were dual 18-bit only, against the marketing hype. They moved to 24-bit now but if you hear dips and what to move away from 24-bits, get a used YBA CD1 or 2 or 3 Alpha and enjoy the bitless effort!
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audphile1
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have you tried Audio Research CD3MkII in your system?
Or better yet CD7?
herman
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So what is your aversion to a DAC?

You are misguided to be hung up on an output tube. The digital to analog portion has to be solid state. You can add a tube to the output for bufferring and/or to add some gain and/or to distort the signal in some way to make it more "tubey," but you certainly don't need a tube to have a fine sounding player or DAC.

And why are you hung up on 20 bits. By definition it can't be anything other than 16 bits and be NonOS. All NonOS players/DACS are 16 bit. Wavelength, Altmann, Scott Nixon, Paradesia, etc. are all 16 bit.
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