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Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?

Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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orgillian197
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You can have your own opinions but you/we should never be allowed to cross the line of civilized discourse and take the 'I disagree with you as my experience was different' position into an attack on the intelligence of the poster disagreed with. That distinction is why many internet comments sections are gone now.

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thyname
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@helmholtzsoul :

audio2design. He was one of the most irritating people on the forums and they let him disrupt every single person on this site for MONTHS. 

Audio2design was just one of his many names. He must have come back here at least ten times I can recall. AtDavid, Dannad, Robertdid, Cindy(something),... I really lost track of them. Perhaps someone can come up with a more comprehensive list :-) 

 

Oh.... I am pretty sure he is lurking around, and reading this (hello!)

 

 

 

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nonoise
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What's happening on Twitter is not at all like what's happening here. Way to go out yourself for all to see. The whole motive behind Musk's move is to excite TFG's base so he can manipulate the stock (again) before he dumps it, just like he did with Dogecoin, fleecing the rubes who followed his tweets.

People here can be so dense.

All the best,
Nonoise

orgillian197
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Further, playing music to someone that they are unfamiliar with on a system that either isn't theirs or doesn't sonically resemble theirs under the provisions of 'blind testing is absolute' is a waste of time. Their innate framework for identifying and analyzing the music as played with any changes made is far too different in most cases to allow for a true comparison. Guessing is not analysis.

And that's just for starters. Bring in system synergy (or the lack thereof), hearing ability (or the lack thereof), etc and the Holy Grail of blind testing really isn't an absolute at all.

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