Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?
Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.
@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"
What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.
Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?
Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated
There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?
What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?
Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?
A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.
Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”
Save for direct appeal to murder there is one concept of free speech well described by Voltaire: «I disagree with you but i am ready to die for your right to say what you wanted to say» Any other concept is open door for censorship... Only fanatic want to limit for their own kind the free speech of others... We cannot muzzle idiots but we can only educate them...
«Education begin with silent listening of everybody, even idiot, we can wait and speak after them»-Anonymus free thinker
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So let me get this clear, @mahgister , you think it's perfectly OK, or at the least should be permitted, for person A to recommend to person B to drink bleach or inject themselves with it to cure covid, and then if person B is foolish enough to believe, then, well, damn the consequences. |
Perhaps because you are intelligent, i dont doubt this, you must read ALL my post content, not the part that suit your interpretation... I said we must let someone even stupid say what he want to say FIRST, in the CONTEXT of a general discussion, and AFTER we can correct it and oppose his "idiotic" suggestion to inject bleach... do you catch it? If we censor him where this censorship will stop? and why censoring just him why not all other idiots? who will decide who is an idiot? you? I am sure that with an hour of reflection at your disposal you will understand WHY this is better to let speak freely people way better than let SOME INSTANCES decide what is idiotic, irrational, or forbidden or taboo FOR OUR OWN SAKE...
For example on this audio forum i am happy that it is not you who decide which audio device is useless and which is useful, guess why? I am pretty sure that you are happy that in this forum it is not me that decide which audio device is useless and which is useful... Then in this free speech audio forum you can speak your mind and me too... Anyway i wish you the best.... it is useless to muzzle people and stupid to insult them also...Between this two there is free polite speech... But sometimes "insults" and sarcasm are the price to pay...
Now i forgot to say that in your post you attribute falsely to me the idea that i was ENDORSING the Trump recommendation to take bleach if i dont want to muzzle Trump at all cost, but i endorse his right to free speech, not the recommendation made by the last idiot who can speak his mind in a free society and public context to drink bleach ... Do you catch here what the greek called a "sophism" in your criticizing of my post argument ? Voltaire cannot be condemned because he will let Trump speak first before answering to his stupid proposition... Imagine now that i am Voltaire...is it clearer?
In a discussion, intelligence is not something we own, but something we each of us lend to the poor and borrow to the rich, the greek call it : dialogos, the way toward the LOGOS... Wisdom may emerge between free man.... my best to you... 😁😊
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I am presuming that since you continue to frequent this forum that you have inwardly digested the guidelines to membership as laid down by the owners of the forum, and in doing so agree to abide by those guidelines. I am curious regarding your standpoint over the conduct of previous members whom the Owner/Admin/moderators of this forum have concluded to have breached those guidelines and have sanctioned them by removing that persons posting privileges on their forum. Only for such a sanctioned person to then stick the middle finger up at that governing body , create a new and disparate membership account whilst also attempting , rather badly, to assume another persona in order to frequent this forum against the wishes of the owner/admin.
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