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Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?

Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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mahgister
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By the way there is a difference between unlimited naive tolerance denounced by Popper correctly so , and critical and selective tolerance a la Marcuse...Between these two there is, GUIDING  tolerance, behind it and in front of it education and communication,  because tolerance is not enough alone, an education toward communication and understanding which refuse abdication in front of agression  and refuse censorship is the ONLY way...

Listen to Daryl Davis...He know even more than Popper and Marcuse...He is more a renaissance man in his spirit  than a conditioned unfree propagandist from the left or right propaganda....

Like i said in my post above speaking of Mandeville, The occident has forgot his roots...Man like Davis remind us of this....

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Orwellian/Machiavellian to the core and being followed to a tee!

More nonsense from those who don’t have the slightest idea. Good people on both sides is BS. There are no good Skinheads or Neonazis. To tolerate such is suicide to society.

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

Karl Popper

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cd318
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Perhaps in order to understand just why censorship is bad we should take a look at its most ardent proponents, the extreme right and especially nowadays, the extreme left (some might argue the moderate left too).

 

Perhaps also a sense of perspective should prevail, no one is advocating mass murder, ethnic cleansing or racially based conspiracy theories.

Look upon it how you will but you simply cannot put discussions about the efficacy of sample rates, cables, fuses and blind listening into the same category.

In any, case I've never witnessed a fight breaking out a hi-fi show, although I did read that Quad's Peter Walker once got a little shirty with some over inquisitive imbecile.

immatthewj
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@djones51 

my reference to the first amendment was an attempt at sarcasm. 

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nonoise
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Perhaps also a sense of perspective should prevail, no one is advocating mass murder, ethnic cleansing or racially based conspiracy theories.

Where, pray tell, have you been?

 

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