Upgrading from Primaluna


Recently went down the front end upgrade path and am running a nice table and phono now. I'm curious as to what the weaker link in my system is between my Primaluna Dialogue Premium Preamp and my Dialogue Premium Hp Power Amp. I'm considering swapping out the amp to a Ps Audio BHK250 for the summer to avoid heat, but am curious if I would be better off dealing with the heat and moving up to say an Allnic L-7000/Arc Ref 3 for the Pre. I'm happy with tubes on the front end, but curious if I'm running out of gas with 88DB efficient speakers and a single chassis tube amp. Which amp would you upgrade first and what benefits would you expect?

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To add…don’t worry too much about the storage box as I don’t think it will interfere or impact the presentation a lot (woofers aren’t as directional as mid or tweeter drivers). The speaker toe in will be important to achieve the best imaging.

All this takes minutes to do but should make the sound more coherent.

Not trying to derail your original ask about the equipment change…just thinking this will help lay the foundation. 

j-wall, FWIW, as you can tell from my previous post I pretty much agree with audphile but, FWIW when I had my speakers too close together relative to the listening position the mid-range was very muddy and did not really clear up until my set up was much closer to an equilateral triangle. For an experiment your speakers are 6ft (+/-) apart - try moving your chair so that it is 6 to 7 feet back from the plane of your speakers and see what happens. I'm NOT suggesting this as an ultimate set up, just as an illustration of what occurs, sound wise, when your speakers are further apart relative to your listening position. BTW, I agree with moving your panels forward to help kill side wall reflections. And DO try some substantial toe in as well. As this advise, bear in mind it is free, only takes a short while to try, and might save you the expense and time involved in upgrading your components.

Good luck.

Good gear vs expectations vs small room and that buildout on the right side.

You've got challenges. Don't expect demo room performance.

I would try the 1/3 concept.  It's free and most certainly, Sopras WILL sound more "airy" 4-5' out. Your seat will be approximately same from rear wall. Embrace(almost) nearfield listening. Less room interaction.

Now tapping out. I have no qualifications in room acoustics/physics.

You're doing haphazard room treatment without the mic/computer exercise to verify what you think you are or are not missing.

 

I have the PL300 and the 400, running in mono block with Tannoy Kensington and Avant grade DUO XD; if I were to do it again I would buy the 300.

The 400’s offer so little more than the 300s, at a huge expense if you change tubes.

I listen to your speakers with a Diablo 300, just magic combination; I also listened them with a Pathos Heritage, great combo but not as good as with the Diablo 300, the Heritage had a little trouble driving them at low volumes so they did not sound big and relaxed. I auditioned your speakers vs the Tannoy at Upscale with a 300 and 400, the PLs just do not have the drive these speakers need. For the PLs you need 90+ efficiency especially if you listen at normal levels then you can get the best out of the amps. to my ears the 300 drove the Focal better than the 400, but that is my ears, which did not know if it was a 400 or a 300.

If you want to add some tube color get a tube preamp, your speakers are not easy to drive, especially at lower volumes, they need the power to open up and then they are very nice speakers.

Pardon my English, not native :)