How do you judge audio components and speakers?


I would say - listening to music you're familiar with, and comparing. We can talk about tight/bloomy bass, midrange clarity, treble extension and things of that nature. We can also be very specific with regards to how a particular track is supposed to sound; based on high-performance gear that we were able to experience - but only if it purports to be accurate without sonic colorations. Therefore, I guess you could say we have a reference point. This part is what I would consider "objective performance." 

Along with this, measurements go hand-in-hand.

On the other side of the coin - subjective performance is how we "want our systems to sound." If the vocals are too bright or sharp, if snares or unpleasant sounding instrumentals ruin an otherwise good song, it's usually because the system is too accurate. So high-end audio is about chasing an ideal that doesn't exist in reality - but in the minds of audiophiles who are seeking a very particular kind of sonic presentation that bodes well with their music library as a whole....giving you just enough detail to keep you interested, while at the same time having a sense of realism, presence, and imaging that makes the speakers dissapear. We are seeking the illusion of a live performance.

 

The above are just my points. Feel free to share what you think. If you think I'm wrong, I don't mind. 

 

Cheers.

 

Jack

 

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And to further my point, you cannot transform a system to have better sound quality with your "acoustical treatments" it is impossible.

You just need the speakers to be close to you - away from anything that might cause sound waves to bounce all over the place. 

RFI is everywhere (WiFi, electronics etc.) But with your methods you are likely to cause cables to act as an antenna, further changing the sound and you believe all of this is an improvement.

Also Maghister, you should start a consulting service to do these treatments for professional studios like AIR studios, and for audiophiles.

Let's see what happens. I'm not trying to be rude, just giving you some common sense advice.

 

And to further my point, you cannot transform a system to have better sound quality with your "acoustical treatments" it is impossible.

You just need the speakers to be close to you - away from anything that might cause sound waves to bounce all over the place.

You dont know what you are talking about...

Near field listening and regular field listening are the TWO positions very influenced by room tratment and control in a room under asround 15 feet ?

Why?

take the speed of sound and the roiom size and think about the number of times the waves front coming from EACH speakers touch your two different ears...

 

Also Maghister, you should start a consulting service to do these treatments for professional studios like AIR studios, and for audiophiles.

Let's see what happens. I'm not trying to be rude, just giving you some common sense advice.

Any studios already pay very highly acousticians to do their job they dont needed me...

 And instead of mocking me THINK by yourself about what i suggest...."You common sense advice " are what? You only suggested that i am a "fool" BECAUSE ME i can suggest sound advice ; think about simple acoustic experiments BEFORE buying anything...

 Who is the fool?

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, but you’re talking about saying a 20k amplifier is not worth it, without having the experience yourself. That’s like me saying lobster must taste bad, but never having tried it my opinion is automatically invalidated.

Well, more power and reflections to you, your walls, and the sound that emits from your speakers. I tried to help, and as usual am met with scorn.

 

 

 

 

Okay, but you’re talking about saying a 20k amplifier is not worth it, without having the experience yourself.

Are you of good faith? dont put your words in my mouth...

I say before buying any piece of gear you must know HOW WHAT YOU ALREADY OWN SOUND LIKE IN YOUR ROOM after acoustic and mechanical and electrical control before upgrading ...

I NEVER SAY that acoustic transform bad design amplifier in good one...

Crhist transform stone in bread not acoustic method..But Only deluded customers upgrade one piece after the other WITHOUT ever  controlling anything in the room/house/ speakers system....

Sorry if i loose cold but you criticized my room without thinking and you accuse me to be deluded....And you claim to be able to give me what advice?

And you dont know what you speak about... Mocking me will not solve your problem... thinking will...

I dont pretend to know anything save what i experimented myself about...