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How do you judge audio components and speakers?

I would say - listening to music you're familiar with, and comparing. We can talk about tight/bloomy bass, midrange clarity, treble extension and things of that nature. We can also be very specific with regards to how a particular track is supposed to sound; based on high-performance gear that we were able to experience - but only if it purports to be accurate without sonic colorations. Therefore, I guess you could say we have a reference point. This part is what I would consider "objective performance." 

Along with this, measurements go hand-in-hand.

On the other side of the coin - subjective performance is how we "want our systems to sound." If the vocals are too bright or sharp, if snares or unpleasant sounding instrumentals ruin an otherwise good song, it's usually because the system is too accurate. So high-end audio is about chasing an ideal that doesn't exist in reality - but in the minds of audiophiles who are seeking a very particular kind of sonic presentation that bodes well with their music library as a whole....giving you just enough detail to keep you interested, while at the same time having a sense of realism, presence, and imaging that makes the speakers dissapear. We are seeking the illusion of a live performance.

 

The above are just my points. Feel free to share what you think. If you think I'm wrong, I don't mind. 

 

Cheers.

 

Jack

 

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allenf1963
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@mahgister

Do you run the fans on low, medium, or high -- what effect does each setting have on the sound?  Have you experimented with filling the gas can with different levels of fluid?  I would think a metal can vs plastic can would make a big difference in sound wave control -- did you try each and if so what were the findings?

skyscraper
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Ghdprentice, although your weight comment is a bit tongue in cheek, there probably is a direct correlation between component quality and weight. Well built products don’t skimp on materials that make them solid and well constructed, so weigh more. No rocket science there.

My current components all ended up weighing a ton and you can be sure aren’t easily carried up a flight of stairs. Luxman, VPI, Magico, and even Marantz components all can put you in traction if you’re not careful. And I’d wager those components will outlast their lower weight class competitors by a country mile.

My newly purchased tonearm is coincidentally a VPI Fatboy, which somehow should fit your criteria too. I probably shouldn’t say this except that it strikes me as funny, but the same principle holds for many great old time opera stars as well.

Mike

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thecarpathian
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@pingstonsmile ,

Classic bully maneuvers.

Insult someone then state you're not insulting them.

Attack someone then claim you're being attacked.

Get branded a bully, insist you're not, then proceed to call those who call you a bully physically inferior losers because you used to 'outlass' them in gym when in high school, which was apparently the high point of his life. Not sure if he meant outclass, or outlast. Either way, just sad.

 

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mahgister
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The "fans" were devices i used years ago, and the gasoline cans as Helmholtz primitive first experiments... Yes i experimented with them.... It was the begininng ...

These virtual page is not my actual room...

i dont use them anymore... I use tubes , plumbers  one  or other kind of time from few inches size to 8 feet high with different volumes and use straws of different lenght and perimeter as neck and mouth...

@mahgister

Do you run the fans on low, medium, or high -- what effect does each setting have on the sound?  Have you experimented with filling the gas can with different levels of fluid?  I would think a metal can vs plastic can would make a big difference in sound wave control -- did you try each and if so what were the findings?

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