Rogue 100 dark

ultimately I am not satisfied with the Rogue. It is not the quietest. Rogue makes nice products. this amp just lacks the tubey sound. Maybe I should post asking for a 75 wpc tube amp that will give me that tubey sound.

Maybe I should post asking for a 75 wpc tube amp that will give me that tubey sound.

I would recommend a Prima Luna amp with EL-34s or maybe 6L6 tubes. That is where good tube magic happens. I have EL-34s in most of my tube amps.

Edit: The EL-34 only puts out about 22 watts each but I have not had issues even running hard to drive speakers. 

Yep that’s the Rogue tube amp sound. The midrange is a bit dry, certainly more than you’d expect from tubes. Sometimes they can sound a bit bright, as shipped with stock tubes (depending on what those are - it’s changed over years). This doesn’t change as you move up the line. On the plus side, their bass, dynamics, and impact are awesome! And these aspects further improve as you move up the line (all the way up to Apollos, even if you don’t need the extra power). You can definitely make these amps sound warmer & sweeter with Gold Lion KT88 outputs (this helps the midrange a whole lot) and NOS small tubes, but the reality is it’s never going to sound exactly like a classic "warm & wet" tube amp (e.g. vintage EL34 or 6L6GC tube amp sound).

Over the last few decades tube amps have been becoming more accurate… more like solid state and solid state has been becoming more natural… both converging on more accurate and realistic. So, in general few amps of today have slap you in the face tuby sound. Today’s tube sound is manifested in musicality and very realistic mid-range bloom… but does not go on to rolled off top and exaggerated midrange and ubiquitous bass.

I am sure there are lots of vintage gear that will give you the sound you want. This is the place to find folks that can make specific recommendations.

I say go class A and screw the tubes...use a tubed phono stage and or a dac with tubes to give some tube coloration.....this is what I've done, Sugden Pure class A integrated combined with a Tavish design classic tube phono stage and the Border Patrol r2r dac....to me sounds very tuby & groovy man..