How Audiphiles are Different


So, I can’t spell Audiophile. Doh.

Again, moving this to a new thread to avoid polluting the OP that got me thinking about this.

A couple of events have intersected for me which made me realize just how very different audiophiles can be. Not just in their tastes but the very way in which the ear/brain mechanism is wired for them. This then profoundly affects their priorities in equipment and rooms. There is no one right way to be but those who argue purity of reproduction is the only reason to be an audiphile, well, I have news for you...

At a show many years ago the rooms varied a great deal in the amount of acoustic treatments. Some very expensive gear was in some really poor sounding rooms. From a couple of these rooms I overheard several participants talk about how great the demos were. I was a little surprised. I couldn’t hear anything. All I could hear was the ocean spray of the room.

After this somewhere I read about how exhausting meeting room and class rooms can be. Our brain is always listening through the room acoustics for words. This takes effort. In a reflective room we literally burn more calories just listening than we do in a dampened room. It makes it harder to study or listen, and we get tired more quickly. I’ve also thought about how musicians listen and how many of them don’t hear the recording or the room, they hear the musician's technique. Their brain’s entire symbol system and language is wired to feel technique and expression.

I have hypothesized these things:

  • Some of us can listen through bad room acoustics much more easily than others
  • Being able to hear minute differences (say in DACs) which don’t appear in steady state tests may very well be possible given long term averaging or some other feature we replicate in modern machine learning/neural networks.
  • We train ourselves to be different types of listeners.

And as a result:

  • Different listeners have different ear / brain wiring which focuses their preferences one way or another.
  • At least to some degree this must be something we learn/train ourselves to do.
  • If this is something we can train ourselves to do maybe we should be careful to train ourselves to listen for musical enjoyment rather than discriminating across equipment.
  • We should embrace the diversity of audiophiles rather than claim a single purity of purpose.
  • Charlatans and snake oil salesmen will never go away.

All of this is just about ear / brain mechanisms. It’s also possible some of us have physical receptors or a combination of different ears/different brains which cause us to hear differently. I remember chatting with a rare lady who was an audiophile and she pointed out that for years she couldn’t listen to DAC’s. They gave her headaches. This was about the same time that DAC’s started getting good at Redbook playback.

What are your thoughts?

 

erik_squires

I would add that I am always struck by difference between my gear preferences and my musician friends.  I have a few friends that are fairly prominent Classical Musicians and they could care less about playback equipment.  I’ve always thought that their minds must fill what their playback equipment is missing

@tannoy56 the answer to your question is obvious but does not match the original posts narrative. While we may have individual preferences around frequency response it seems, how we all hear is fundamentally exactly the same.

My "ear" is an amalgam of having played music in concert bands, singing in choirs (school and church) and listening to all kinds of live and recorded music thanks to my parents. I can freely admit that some systems I’ve heard lately could be said to "sound better" than mine, but REALLY aren’t for me.

What the "audiophile purity" standards lack is the literal feeling in your body of being within and amongst the sound. I’ve sat in a choir loft with pipe organ pipes very close-by. Or when I played sax, and our row was right in front of the lower brass instruments (trombones and tubas). If my speakers don’t give me any visceral feelings, if they don’t distort (to my expectations)  the ways instruments do, I find them to be unreal and thus lacking in some way. (Not just loud volume, I know the difference)

Accuracy is the most laughable term ever used by audiophiles, and we’re all sensitive to different distortions, differently. It’s true, we’re definitely not all seeking the same things. That’s the beauty of it, to me.

Your speakers absolutely should not distort at all. If they do, then they are not going to accurately reproduce the distortion of the recorded instrument. If you want to recreate that instrument as you claim you cannot be adding additional distortions. If you do, it is not the recorded instrument you are hearing. Perhaps you like that but then your musical pedigree loses its value in the argument you are presenting.

If you are listening from the choir loft next to the pipe organ you aren't hearing the same thing as the audience either.

It only makes sense. It's the same in life with everything. Everybody prefers different things. Nobody is the same. Hence we are called individuals. And I am grateful for that. How sad would the world be if we were all alike. My system sounds best, period 😉