DAC diminishing returns

@sns If you are building a minimalist system, built in volume control on a DAC\Streamer could be a huge cost savings. Then you have something like the Weiss 502 DAC mentioned above. Initially the price seems quite high, and I would say purely for the bare DAC electronics it is. However, when you include all the software features (if you use them), it seems reasonable for what is likely a relatively low volume product.

I’m going to enjoy my new DAC , it is messing with my mind how good a Non OS DAC can sound.  I fully intend to demo something like a Bricasti or something in that league before my one year trade up.  If the difference is that dramatic I will go all in….
 

I have always preached how important the preamp is and there is a lot of truth to that , but with a really good preamp the difference in source components can be heard and it’s not always subtle 

Many dacs don't have any means of volume control, others strip bits. In order  extracting maximum potential from these dacs requires some form of volume control, the quality of that volume control has major bearing on sound quality of that dac. 

This is true if your goal is to get the music as close to the original recording as possible. The Benchmark DAC3 paired with the ABH2 power amp will get you state of the art transparency for $5000. 

However, many of us would be in for a rude awakening with that level of transparency in our systems. Our tube preamps and R2R DACs add flavor or color to the sound...giving us a deeper and wider soundstage, additional layering, and weight to the sound...the perception of 3D sound.

I got spoiled with a remote DAC, especially with the features it had.  Remote volume, source, EQ, digital filter, balance , and on and on 
 

The DAC that replaced it has no features other than power and input .   Preamp has remote volume so it’s really not a big deal.  Sound is really good.    If I have to decide between sound quality and features it SQ every time…. I believe it when they say many hours of listening went into this DAC.   It sounds like it.  Very natural sounding.    Fatigue free, engaging.

@qkroes

Congratulations. That is the way it starts. My rule of thumb is never invest less than 2x… then you get a profound wow and significant jump in performance. I have gotten them periodically for fifty years as my systems continually exceeded my expectations.