PC-Audio vs. High-end CD Player-GAME OVER


Hi All,
I just auditioned the Wavelength Audio Cosecant DAC on a very nice system at the local dealer. It was run through a Hovland 200 preamp , a Plinius amp and Avalon Eidolon Diamond speakers. This is all in a very well treated, good-sounding room.
It was, in a word spectacular. Beautiful tone, excellent bass, imaging soundstaging, etc. What was really amazing was a sense of space, or ambience that was imparted. We then compared the same CD's (Diana Krall, Jennifer warnes, some jazz), on a Levinson CDP. I'm not saying that the levinson is the last word in players, but it was what he had on the shelf.While it sounded good, it was much more bright, and "constricted".
Control was through an Imac using I-tunes, and the CD's had been nurned using Apple Lossless.
I ordered my Crimson on the spot.

David
deshapiro
Thank you for pointing out that NWO is a CDP. Someday, I would love to hear one.

But again, you're using a $30K LP setup as a comparison. I never made any claims that a $30K LP (or dedicated CDP for that matter) will surpass the PC + DAC combo. My point is that if you spent the same, let's say, $5,000 on a PC + DAC vs. CDP, which would come out on top? What about $3,000 PC + DAC vs. CDP.

Anyway, when you think about it the CD will be dead if (a big if) the major studios determine that they are no longer making money off them, and if the on-line download market becomes big enough to make pressing CD's no longer worthwhile. And companies like Sony, Samsung, etc. stop making mass-market CDP's (or DVD players). So you can see that huge assumptions have to be made to declare that CD will be dead soon, and it will not matter a tiny bit to the studios whether there is an excellent PC+DAC setup...OR...whether there is a small manufacturer out there that makes fantastic CDPs for a small number of people. Unfortunately, what the audiophile market says will be irrelevant to the demise (or continued existence) of the CD medium.

Like Alex said, there currently is a 30K vinyl rig that will blow all CDs and SACD players away, in full production, and anyone with enough money can buy it. But that doesn't mean Deutsche Gramophone or Decca will come back issuing the new Berlin Phil or Metropolitan Opera recordings on LPs.
Wow, I was considering some Alps gear until I read this thread. ):

Computer and/or network based transports are the future.
Does anyone know a good way to "dump" CD's for some cash? I'm sure ready to do it. It seems Ebay would be a pain in the ass. Is there a CD swapping/trading site or something?
Pschoi, why a $3K or $5K CDP does not sound as good as a comparable PC-Audio/DAC speaks for the CDP, not the PC-Audio/DAC.

I agree with you, but it seems like you are the only one around here to acknowledge that PC-Audio is not "the best". Others say it is GAME OVER and THE BEST. So this is what I disagree with.

But that doesn't mean Deutsche Gramophone or Decca will come back issuing the new Berlin Phil or Metropolitan Opera recordings on LPs.

I don't know about LPs but they have many of those on SACDs, it is "good enough" for me. :-) With close to 5000 SACDs currently available (and growing), I am very happy!

Regards,
Alex