@mijostyn It would seem, by your own admission, "....I have used them all and the LP 12 is an antique. Its days ended in 1980." .... that you are still stuck back in 1980 and that with all the improvements and developments that have been implemented over the last 42 years, you seem to refused to believe that the LP12 has advanced beyond that point of over 4 decades ago.
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinions. However, I will put more weight on the opinions of those whom I have quoted in my last post who have actually not only listened to current model LP12's, but have also compared them head to head with well respected modern day alternatives (some of which were on your list, no less) as well as my own ears and judgement.
@slaw I, for one, can certainly believe that what your ears heard from your friend's updated LP12 was indeed impressive. I'm glad that you were able to listen with an open mind and without a biased judgement.
Best wishes to all,
Don