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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
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tonywinga
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What the hey?  I just measured the resistance of my expensive new power cord with my $25 Ohm meter.  I got the same reading- down to 3 decimal places when I measured the resistance of a $5 power cord.  I just realized all power cords are the same.  Wait a minute!  I get the same reading if I short the two probes of my Ohm meter together.  That must mean all power cords have zero resistance.

My point to this irony is that without understanding the capabilities of the test equipment we are using, having traceability for that equipment back to a standard, and using a defined test method that can be repeated by others (correlation) then the results have no meaning and certainly should not be published.

 

 

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ghdprentice
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@tonywinga 

 

+1

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milpai
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By now it should be clear that ASR is Amir’s Sh!++y Reviews. It must be real fun to measure everything and not listen. Most folks on this site do not understand that audio components are made for measuring and not listening 😉

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kokakolia
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@fleschler You mentioned briefly $500 amplifiers. This is where ASR can shine. But almost exclusively review SMSL/Sabaj/Aiyima/Topping amplifiers. Is this snobbery skewed towards China amps/dacs or a budget constraint? 

Outside of ASR reviewers focus on the typical NAD, Rotel, Marantz, Yamaha and Denon amps. But there is no obvious direct comparison between China chip-module amps and classic A/B amps. 

On some YouTube comment (not ASR) some user commented that the SMSL A300 was better than the Rotel A11 Tribute at 1/3 the cost. This is the hype I'm looking for coming from ASR.

It's interesting that major Hi-Fi brands are slowly embracing class D. Maybe ASR can do some good, despite being an angry mob of bullies. 

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