Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
Agree on that. I would love to learn what you accomplished on that front. Please post a picture of your system here. I assume you have excellent speakers placed on a highly optimized purpose built dedicated heavily treated room? I think you have Dutch & Dutch active speakers, correct?
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I sold the Dutch and Dutch, they are exceptional speakers but I prefer a wider dispersion speaker. I now have Atalante 5 speakers you won't find any measurements I'm aware of they are a relatively new company entirely designed and built in France. I use a cheap Topping DAC and a class D amplifier. REW for measurements and Roon PEQ filters, very few about 4 I believe. I don't have a dedicated room and minimal treatments. |
So I am curious, how did you buy your speakers without any measurements available? I am assuming not by listening as that is worthless to you, does not matter. Or you had measurements, but they were / are secret? Basically, I am curious how you arrived on a purchase decision on the main element of the audio system, speakers. |
@kokakolia Agree and that's why I posted my experience. What is missing from ASR and discussions is used equipment. When I was younger, I sought out highly rated used equipment, especially speakers. I purchased Audionics, Acoustat X, 1+1 ad 2+2s, Martin Logan Monolith III, Legacy Focus and Signature IIIs, all at very low prices compared to their new equivalent. Why not a Yamaha C4 or 50 preamp, or Yamaha CR 620 receiver? Their equivalence is hard to match for $1000s. I noticed at ASR that Martin, a major contributor consistently posts his love for and upgrades in the Von Schweikert speaker line. He purchases most of his equipment used and desires VS Ultra 11s as his ultimate speaker. He listens to classical music. He also powers his VS VR5s using a Topping amp which is a strange combo. He is an anomaly on ASR. Matthooper had a video on amp stands improving sound versus nothing. He was torn apart for wasting money and that his video was a sham of the difference. Typical ASR forum.
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