I don’t know where you are in the process but I am completely lost about the suggestion of buying speakers first. You should buy the amp first, I think, it will be the spirit of your system.
Recommendations for HiFi Listening Room
Newbie here. Wife and I are looking to turn our Great Room into a listening room. It’s roughly 21’X’19 and has a cathedral ceiling that is 11’ tall at the wall and 20’ tall at the apex. Spoke to a good hifi dealer in the area who made the following recommendations/proposal and I’m curious if this group may have any input for getting maximum bang for my buck. Basically, with a budget around 35k (or thereabouts) would you buy something similar or are there any components you’d add or swap out?
Paradigm Persona 3F
McIntosh MA8950
Pro-Ject Xtension 9 w/ Ortofon Black Cartridge
Sony ES DSD Music Server (this one concerns me a touch in that it appears to be an 8 yr old product line).
Thanks so much in advance for your collective expertise. My wife isn’t going to let me drop money into this for another 15 years so I need to get it right the first time.
If it matters, our musical taste is quite varied: classical, jazz, classic rock, alternative, hip hop. My mother complained in my youth that if i had 10 bucks I would just buy a CD with it. She is still right.
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@brewerslaw Just because you bought tons from iTunes doesn't mean you're stuck with Apple Music forever. When you stream it, they don't even play the best version of the files. They shrink to save bandwidth. Your best bet is to store you Apple purchased files in AIFF on a NAS or USB drive. Then you can play those with any decent software on a streamer even if you don't have a service subscription to Qobuz etc. Roon would make for better metadata. One super annoying thing about Apple is they don't by default place album art .jpgs in your folders. You can easily fix this some cheap or maybe even free software. But that's a whole 'nuther conversation. @grislybutter buying an amp before choosing what speakers you'll use them with is like buying your favorite tires because they'll be the "spirit of your ride" then looking at what vehicles fit those tires. Speakers vary far more widely in design and each needs an appropriate amp. The delta between appropriate amps will be significant, but nowhere near as wide ranging in possibilities vs. the myriads of speaker options. You wouldn't want to buy monster truck tires and then decide you'd like to drive a Miata. Cheers, Spencer |
@sbank I started with the speakers and then, at the end, had to replace the amp. If I had started with the amp, I would have had a much better way to tell which speaker worked best for me. The range of the amp-with-speaker choices is wider than either the speaker or amp range, besides the fact there is no such thing as speaker or amp sound "alone". When I switched amps, the change in speaker sound was just as varied as when I switched speakers (in similar price range) with the same amp. That's what my ears told me. I was thinking of metaphores before my original post, and they were all flawed, just like yours. tires as the amp? Seriously? Don't you see how ridiculous it is. At the end, there are arguments for either approach. The bottom line is, you can't test speakers without a decent amplifier and one that matches your needs. It will be a flawed experience. |
@grislybutter Totally agree with you about pros/cons of either approach and no demo is going to be worthwhile w/o appropriately matched amp & speakers. However, my analogy was to try to help point the less experienced OP down a path of more likely success. Of course, it's just an opinion. Spencer |
@sbank yes, of course i was talking from a low budget perspective where I started. I always thought I had to spend 60% of my money on speakers. (=I would have agreed with you 110% for most of my shopping journey) I also think - and I have no proof - that with a great amp, even mediocre speakers sound better. Overall, I think starting with listening to the speakers at dealers may work just as well with the OPs massive budget. I was arguing from my modest budget point of view, when every purchase was just barely cutting it. |
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