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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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juanmanuelfangioii
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if you trust what Amir is reporting. I for one do not. 

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curiousjim
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According to asr, if two wires measure the same, then they are the same.  If two amplifier’s put out ten watts, then they are the same. And when I saw him
doing an interference test on a power cord that was not plugged in, I shook my head and have never gone back.

djones51
4,947 posts
 

 

And when I saw him
doing an interference test on a power cord that was not plugged in, I shook my head and have never gone back.

 

Interference Test of power cable not plugged in. 

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milpai
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I find it hard to believe when someone sells the speaker they own and purchase a loudspeaker that has certain tweeter and midrange/woofer spec, assuming that it will sound good!!! Why? Because it probably measures well. And this is the science type, on this thread.

It took me 2 years and many a dealer/AXPONA visits to identify a speaker that I really liked. There were many $$$$ loudspeakers that I auditioned but I did not like some trait or the other. Finally landed on what I currently have. Of course this was using my own sense of hearing. I am sure, I approached it completely wrong, per ASR folks (I think).

agisthos
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@noske  Exactly, which "party" do you speak of?

It's an ironic figure of speech common in the English language. Someone who is referred to as the 'life of the party' is the opposite - they are sour, dour and bring the energy down in any conversation.

i.e all the 'I have an EE' curmudgeons found on audio forums just waiting to tell us how all amps sound the same and speakers should only be purchased by looking at their measurement charts.

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