Maybe this is the winter you build something!

@akgwhiz 

This depends.  There are like $30 kits on Amazon that provide high fun / dollar, For something more advanced, look around for Elekit kits.

It's weird to me that when I suggest Audiophiles might enjoy building stuff themselves I get flack.

Nigel. Have you not learned your lesson after those SNR1 that you did a few years ago? Why dont you be honest and tell us what the outcome of that was?

Did you ever get them to sound good or did you give up?

Groundbreaking, absolutely stunning perspective which could revolutionize our lives, @kenjit.  Why don't you take whatever point you are trying to make, if any, and start a brand new thread on it? I'm sure you'll get plenty of support that way.

Having fun now.

Thanks, Eric, for the topic. Been there. Done (and, still doing) that.

I’d like to mention that there are varous levels of engagement for DIYr’s. Not everybody has access to a woodshop, or the finese to navigate their way around component level architecture. While making something from a stack of wood or zip lock bags full of parts may be the most rewarding (emotionally and sonically) available kits do offer a "doable" option where the heavy lifting has already been done by others. Yes, Eric, some of them take a (much) different approach than I would, but generally speaking do produce a good result overall.

@elliottbnewcombjr Thanks for bringing up the topic of improving the performance of existing gear. I think it is important to bring this up. "Newer thinking" applied to older designs can produce ... modern sounding gear while maintaining the esthetics (and emotional attachment) to older gear. The equipment doesn’t have to be part of your reference system. Just stuff you care about and enjoy spending quality time with. We recently upgraded a pair of Bose 201s that are being used as outdoor background music in a boat house (under a canopy). After a throrough cleaning (including removal of hornet’s nests) and installing "good stuff" on the inside, they are far more musical and easier to listen to for long periods of time. $50 worth of parts and a soldering gun in your hand can make a big difference.

The point here is that ANY engagement at ANY level on ANY equipment can be fun, and rewarding.

@erik_squires - Does baking cannabis brownies count?? 😆 That's MY kinda DIY!