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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
mitch2
3,974 posts
 

@rudyb +2

As long as measurements are not brought upon us as better or worse ’sound quality’ and as long as subjective hearing is not brought upon us as a fact, maybe we can all appreciate each others measurements and opinions and live peacefully together?

Another simple but yet insightful observation - thank you.

I appreciate that @amir_asr has shown up amidst the noxious climate of this thread to respond to the many inflammatory statements.  I don't need to believe or refute the information provided on ASR, but I can learn from it while abiding by their rules.  For those who can get past the concept that everyone doesn't need to agree or think the same, diversity can be interesting and insightful especially when delivered with civility.

juanmanuelfangioii
958 posts
 

Crikey the age old argument, “I am right and you are wrong” I think we all need a hit off of someone’s bong. 
 

Time to move on this is a stalemate and has been for some time.

 

mitch2
3,974 posts
 

@lanx0003

I don’t think a healthy, civilized society like AG should censor / ban amir or any person like him as asr / amir did to others. But we could choose to ignore him simply because you could not win the argument with a dictator from a third-world community like putin. His seemingly non-toxic statements filled with toxic tone / attitude should always be ignored.

This is a good example of how name-calling replaces meaningful dialogue and incites others, i.e., AG is a "healthy, civilized society" while ASR is run by a toxic, third world, dictator like Putin...really? I don’t need to be told what to ignore since I can think for myself.  Pass the bong please.

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decooney
1,992 posts
 

@milpai "decooney, I was not even aware of Soulnote. Seems to be focused in Europe"

 

No credit due to me, I found the article link posted earlier by @nonoise in this thread. A fun and related read around the topic of measurement and sound, for anyone who may have missed it. Link is underlined below.

 

@nonoise "By coincidence, I came upon this while reading up on new reviews by the designer of Soulnote products.

All the best,
Nonoise"

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