Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

@westcoastaudiophile 

Amir, your equipment and tests are “too ancient” and missing novel micro-dynamics, transient, noise and more important performance metrics High volume manufacturing data is missing in your tests as well. 

Too ancient?  What is not too ancient if you don't mind listing?

For now, my AP has a noise floor that is low enough to produce signal to noise ratio as high as 130 dB: 

 

*Best case* dynamic range of our hearing system is 115 dB (limited by max SPL and noise level of the auditory system).  With 130 dB like above, we have ample headroom.

Transients are trivial to measure and I show them all the time to satisfy people even though they have so little meaning as far as fidelity.

As to "high volume manufacturing," that is not my job. It is manufacturer's job.  BTW, such testing usually uses (an obsolete) audio analyzer with "go/no go." Precision is not required there although would be appreciated if it existed.

My job is to determine performance of an audio device.  Not its reliability. No reviewer can give you that data. The fact that you think my equipment is "obsolete" to do that and that I am supposed to do such testing makes my head spin!  

@amir_asr "I have reviewed 1,300 products” in not authorized/certified LAB? WOW

what is your background, engineering degree etc?

@westcoastaudiophile 

disclosure: I am experienced analog circuit design engineer, currently working at major US corporation 

Good deal.  Please list the audio measurement gear you use and some of the data produced by it.  And once there, please explain why you measure at all as some folks here seem to not like them at all.

@amir_asr do I get it right what you say: -130dB using Amazon RCA basic cables in not shielded chamber? Without power filters or RFI noise control etc?